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Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup)

From Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup)
Date 2016-04-24 21:20 +0200
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On 20/04/16 20:44, John L. Ries wrote:
>> Thanks! I think we need to share more examples on how to use systemd
>> properly. A lot of the criticism stems from the simple fact that people
>> just need to learn what the new tools can do for them.
>
> That would be an indication that systemd is non-intuitive and poorly
> documented, which has been my impression for the past several years.

Approximately all interfaces for humans to control computers (and 
absolutely all interfaces that involve using typical computer human 
input devices like keyboards, mice, etc.) are non-intuitive, so saying 
"systemd is non-intuitive" is meaningless for all practical purposes.

What *is* fair to say is that some people find that they already had 
acceptable solutions to all the problems they have which systemd is 
intended to solve, and therefore - quite justifiably! - have no desire 
to learn a new set of interfaces for solving those problems. I - and 
indeed most systemd proponents - have no quarrel with those people.

Some of the people who are in that position proceed to generalize their 
own distaste for, and lack of need for, systemd into a claim that 
systemd cannot possibly be solving any problems for anyone. A few of 
them go further still, and proceed to agitate for Angra Mainyu to be 
depicted with Lennart Poettering's face.

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on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-20 17:10 +0200
  Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2016-04-20 21:40 +0200
    Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2016-04-20 22:00 +0200
      Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-20 23:00 +0200
    Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) "John L. Ries" <jries@salford-systems.com> - 2016-04-20 22:10 +0200
      Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-20 23:00 +0200
      Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-23 08:30 +0200
        Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Ansgar Burchardt <"Ansgar Burchardt"@43-1.org> - 2016-04-24 12:30 +0200
          Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-24 20:30 +0200
            Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-04-24 22:00 +0200
            Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-24 22:10 +0200
            Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-25 13:40 +0200
      Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2016-04-24 21:20 +0200
  Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Ansgar Burchardt <"Ansgar Burchardt"@43-1.org> - 2016-04-20 23:40 +0200
    Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-04-21 00:10 +0200
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