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Re: R: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible?

From Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseupdeleteme.net>
Newsgroups it.comp.retrocomputing
Subject Re: R: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible?
Date 2020-12-15 00:16 -0500
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Awesome information, thank you for taking the time to write. Much 
appreciated.

As a pandemic hobby project, I set out to revisit the "thousand years 
ago" when multibooting used to be fun. Armed with a foxconn motherboard 
with the last of the northwood p4s, a soundblaster live!, a fx5500 GPU, 
a PCI-to-SATA card, a power supply and a PS/2 keyboard and mouse (all 
from eBay), I have so far managed to have the following running from one 
SSD and 2xIDE drives:

- MS-DOS 6.22
- Windows 1.0
- Windows 2.0
- Windows 3.0
- WFW 3.11
- Win98 SE
- WinNT 4.0
- Win2000
- WinXP
- Win 7
- Solaris/Intel
- MX Linux

Win95 would be fun to add to the mix, and I figured out the himemx.exe 
and lone crusader's fast cpu tricks, hence the question.

I have a separate MS-DOS 6.22 virtual machine with TCP/IP and Arachne, 
as well as a little webserver and DECnet/Pathworks for DOS talking to my 
(and others') VAX machines. It would be fun to run this DOS stuff on the 
bare-metal multiboot PC, but I am out of PCI slots for a PCnet-Fast NIC 
(the integrated NIC is not supported by the ancient operating systems).

Once Win95 works, I would like to throw in eComstation OS/2 and BeOS too 
at some point in time.

Usefulness is not the goal here, obviously. It's great fun and I can 
think of much worse hobbies :)

I will give GAG a shot, and also I probably have a CDR with System 
Commander on it - looks like an intelligent boot manager is a must.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Supratim Sanyal




On 12/13/20 11:43 AM, s@ntrolli.ni wrote:
> Hi,
> a thousand years ago I had a Pentium IV machine with 512 MB and I managed to
> set up a quadruple/quintuple OS boot.
> that machine is long gone  - :-(  , so I can't turn it on to check how I did
> it,,,
> anyway, as boot manager I used a software called GAG, you can download it
> from here, burn it into a bootable CD and from there install it into the PC
> MBR:
> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Each OS was its own partition, the boot options were:
> - Win 95 C (OSR 2.5) alongside with Windows for Workgroup 3.11, both on DOS
> 7.1
> - Win 98 SE
> - Win NT 4.0 Workastation
> - A LInux distro, probably Vector or something similar
> 
> If I don't remember wrong, on the DOS version I used for Win95/Win3x, I also
> installed a TCP packet driver and other DOS network protocols (NetBios) and
> I could "exit to DOS" and then browse the Web with Arachne or reach the
> other computers in the home network...
> 
> it was a real "masterpiece of a retro-machine", I enjoyed it so much for a
> couple of years .. then the power supply suddenly died....
> 
> Now in 2020, it would be completely useless though...
> 
> in any case, "exiting to DOS" from the two Win9x systems (kept separate on
> their own partitions) brought to their own version of DOS.
> Only Win95 and Wfw 3.11 shared the 7.1 DOS version of Win95 (see article
> below).
> 
> ***  this is just to say the best idea is always to keep things separate....
> ***
> 
> ***
> If you're interested, you can find instructions to install Wfw 3.11 (with
> LFN - Long File Name support) alongside Win9x on the same primary partition
> on top of DOS 7.1.
> My own article, written ages ago, is here, but it's all in Italian:
> http://www.wintricks.it/manuali/Win31-98.html
> You need to google to find something in English, many of the links I quote
> in my article unfortunately are old or broken...
> 
> some other hints are here:
> http://wiki.oldos.org/index.html
> http://www.win31.de/esoft.htm
> 
> Hope I've been of any help.
> Cheers
> San
> 
> ***
> 
> Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseupdeleteme.net> wrote in message
> rr36me$91l$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> folks - I am not a multiboot expert, and this has probably been beaten
>> to death but I am getting confused by all the forum posts.
>>
>> I installed MS-DOS 6.22, and then Windows 95C on the same partition, all
>> good. Then I installed Windows 98SE on a different partition. Still all
>> good, except that "Previous version of MS-DOS" from the Windows 98 boot
>> menu drops me to MS-DOS 6.22.
>>
>> Obviously I was wrong in thinking it would drop me into the Windows 95
>> boot menu, from which I could choose "Normal" windows 95 or MS-DOS (some
>> sort of chain loader).
>>
>> So - are there any tricks for me to be able to boot into Windows 95 from
>> Windows 98, and then from Windows 95 to MS-DOS or stay in Windows 95?
>>
>> Any advice appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Supratim Sanyal
> 
> 

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MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseupdeleteme.net> - 2020-12-12 14:46 -0500
  Re: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? "the F.O." <f.o@forward-observer.net> - 2020-12-13 09:54 +0000
  Re: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? zulu <antani@cazzola.it> - 2020-12-13 16:05 +0100
    Re: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseupdeleteme.net> - 2020-12-15 00:18 -0500
  R: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? <s@ntrolli.ni> - 2020-12-13 17:43 +0100
    Re: R: MSDOS 6.22, Windows 95 OSR 2.5 and Windows 98 SE Multiboot possible? Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseupdeleteme.net> - 2020-12-15 00:16 -0500

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