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Re: IBM 1620 and its successors, not An Xmyth stack overflow ?

From John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: IBM 1620 and its successors, not An Xmyth stack overflow ?
Date 2020-12-12 02:22 +0000
Organization Taughannock Networks
Message-ID <rr19gd$1utl$1@gal.iecc.com> (permalink)
References <rql47u$13v$1@dont-email.me> <rr0csg$pso$3@gal.iecc.com> <55f722ff-9411-45f6-8bc3-13d44c911fb3n@googlegroups.com> <rr16t31si7@news4.newsguy.com>

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In article <rr16t31si7@news4.newsguy.com>,
Charlie Gibbs  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> The above reply applies to the  IBM 1620 Model I  (one).  
>> The word  "CADET"  was the code name before the first delivery,  it was
>> just a code word;  almost all IBM hardware had a code name assigned to it
>> during design/production before the first delivery.   They were just names.
>> The  model II  (two)  didn't use lookup tables except for multiplication. 
>> Model III was about to go into production,  but was cancelled because of
>> the upcoming IBM 360,  and IBM didn't want anything to compete with the
>> 360,  even other IBM computers. 
>
>Sounds familiar, like the way the original IBM Personal Computer
>was crippled so as not to compete with the Displaywriter.

In this case it wasn't a matter of crippling the performance, it was a
desire to kill of all of the old incompatible product lines. There was
an option for the 360/30 to emulate a 1620 but I don't think it was
very popular.

Shortly after the 360 series came out, IBM added the 1130, a 16 bit
binary machine that wasn't compatible with anything. It was pretty
slow, but it was a lot faster than a 1620 and came with a standard
disk drive.   Its software used the 360's 8-bit EBCDIC code.

For the real-time customers, there was the 1800, a souped
up 1130, and the 360/44, an odd stripped down 360 that ran floating
point fairly fast and had some realtime interface features.



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                Re: IBM 1620 and its successors, not An Xmyth stack overflow ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-12 02:22 +0000
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                Re: An Xmyth stack overflow ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 19:57 -0700
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