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Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird)

From Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.security
Subject Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird)
Date 2016-04-11 21:50 +0200
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Am 2016-04-11 um 14:51 schrieb Brandon Vincent:
> Implemented properly it shouldn't matter which option you pick. The
> SSL/TLS option is actually depreciated. Thunderbird should refuse a
> connection if you have STARTTLS checked and the server doesn't support
> it. It sounds more like your login was what was throwing the alert.

For the Hong Kong VPN, yes. That one was ok.
... but what about the unencrypted Wifi in Villach, Austria I had used 
after which I got login attempts from Russia. Google Mail accounts are 
encrypted since long (1,5 years in the past; i.e. that was last summer 
when I remember it correctly.); possibly I will have to look if I still 
have the Google warning; now I want to see the proof for it myself once 
more ...

> The best advice I can offer is to not use an "untrusted" VPN. Free VPN
> services have to make money somehow.
>
> Brandon Vincent
>

The question always is on how much you trust your ISP and the internet 
connection you have. If a site is not available by my ISP I perhaps 
wanna try it via a VPN or Tor. Otherwise we would not need sites like 
downforeveryoneorjustme.com.

Some of my friends do also complain not to receive emails from me or I 
do not receive emails they told me afterwards that they would have 
written me. This is usually due to spam settings but I for my revido 
account have disabled any spam deletion or trashing so that every 
message considered spam still will arrive at my inbox (flagged as spam 
though). Why there are still emails lost every now and then remains ominous.

Finally some relatives of mine have once told me that a link on my own 
site http://www.elstel.org/MH17.html.de would not work. I just popped up 
my browser and verified that the link was in deed working from me and 
the net my ISP provides to me (yes; this time it was the other way 
round). The message behind the link was somehow politically delicate 
claiming that the West would try to provoke a war with Russia (in the 
meantime this site has resettled to de.sputniknews.com, though that time 
when my relatives had complaint it had not yet resettled (i.e. the link 
may be dead when you test it nowadays but that time it was not.).).

Elmar Stellnberger

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SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 18:30 +0200
  Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird) Brandon Vincent <Brandon.Vincent@asu.edu> - 2016-04-11 00:10 +0200
    Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:30 +0200
  Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Evgeny Kapun <abacabadabacaba@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:00 +0200
    Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:20 +0200
      Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird) Vladislav Kurz <vladislav.kurz@webstep.net> - 2016-04-11 11:30 +0200
        Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:30 +0200
          Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird) Vaughn Graham <vaughng@dmsllconline.net> - 2016-04-11 21:00 +0200
            Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 21:20 +0200
            Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird) Brandon Vincent <Brandon.Vincent@asu.edu> - 2016-04-12 05:20 +0200
      Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with Thunderbird) Brandon Vincent <Brandon.Vincent@asu.edu> - 2016-04-11 15:00 +0200
        Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 21:50 +0200
          Re: SSL/TLS still seems to be screwed up (retrieving Mail with  Thunderbird) Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 22:50 +0200

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