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Re: Keyboards again

From Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Keyboards again
Date 2020-09-13 07:05 +0000
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Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> schrieb:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 06:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>
>> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> schrieb:
>>> I remember reports of a competition where 
>>> a 10-key adding machine operator couldn't keep up with a proficient 
>>> soroban operator. I suppose that's still true, if there are any 
>>> proficient abacus operators left these days.
>>
>> It would be interesting to see how that would work in competition
>> with, let's say, a bar code scanner at a supermarket cash register.
>> These don't work perfectly either...
>
> Since you also appear to be from Germany, remember the 80s and early 90s
> at ALDI?

> They were so "advanced". Before bar code was used cashiers in
> other stores read the price from the label and typed it in. No way to
> take track of how many items were still in stock. At ALDI the poor (and
> bad paid)

From what I've read, ALDI pays more than other supermarkets
(whatever that means), but they have far fewer people who are
expected to do all jobs, so their overall labor costs are lower.

> cashiers had to remember a three digit code for every item or
> look it up from a table o a sheet of paper if they didn't. Type it in and
> the register would show the price but also subtract one product. Must be
> painful to learn up to 999 items with their code.

Remembering up to 999 (or 1000?) codes is certainly something that
not everybody could do well, so I suspect a certain qualificiation
was needed.

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            Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 17:52 -0400
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              Re: Keyboards again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-09 17:42 +0000
                Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-09 19:50 +0100
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              Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-09 15:27 -0700
                Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-10 17:47 -0400
                Re: Keyboards again Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-11 01:26 -0500
                Re: Keyboards again Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-12 06:20 +0000
                Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-12 12:27 +0000
                Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-12 13:07 +0000
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                Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-04 22:06 +0000
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                Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 10:06 -0400
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                Re: Barcodes Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 19:05 -0400
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                Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 23:54 -0400
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                Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-12 20:02 -0400
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                Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-13 09:24 +0100
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