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Re: Keyboards again

From Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Keyboards again
Date 2020-09-10 16:24 +0000
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On 2020-09-09, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

> On 8 Sep 2020 21:26:45 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> Does anyone remember when there was no such thing as LED blue,
>> because nobody had figured out how to make them?  Then they
>> were available, but horribly expensive - your typical 25-cent
>> red or green LED cost $6 in blue.
>
> Wasn't that just "recently", like early 2XXX?

That sounds about right.  I don't remember the exact date.

> I seem to recall the same is the case for white LEDs.
> Today almost every new car has them as front light.

They're also taking over as street lighting in many places.
We replaced the failing 70-watt high-pressure sodium wall packs
in our hangar complex with 25-watt LED units.  Although the
unit price is over twice as much, I calculate they will pay
for themselves in 10 years in electricity savings alone (and
aside from the infant mortality issues, they'll hopefully still
be going strong after those 10 years).

Figuring out how to make high-powered LEDs was a game-changer.

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          Re: Keyboards again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:26 +0000
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