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When did mainframes lose commercial dominance?

From	Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	When did mainframes lose commercial dominance?
Date	2020-09-05 10:12 +0000
Organization	news.netcologne.de
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Clearly, in the 1980s, mainframes ruled the commercial world, at
least for large companies.

By that time, they had mostly lost the crown of scientific
calculation to the minis (with the exception of vector computers).

So, when did they lose their dominant commercial position?

At the company I used to work for, they had a home-grown accounting
system running on mainframes, which they then replaced with an ERP
system in the late 1990s.  That system didn't need the mainframes
any more, so they were deactivated.

(You could argue that a company which does that replaces a hardware
vendor lock with the mother of all software vendor locks.)

Today, some SAP products seem to run on a zSystem, but there is
no certified hardware for HANA, their high-speed in-memory database,
for that architecture.  It's only Intel and POWER.

So, when did the mainframes start losing the commercial computing
centers?  Is around 2000-ish the right timeframe?

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When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 10:12 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 06:55 -0400
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 11:19 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-05 12:31 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 09:26 -0400
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:04 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:26 -0400
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:57 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 14:03 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 15:15 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:34 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:02 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:27 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 20:02 -0400
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:50 -0400
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-05 12:03 -0500
                Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 14:07 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:53 -0700
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 20:57 -0400
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:58 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-06 07:10 +0100
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-06 20:05 +0000
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 13:30 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 19:17 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:20 -0400
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-19 07:15 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:41 -0400
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 18:59 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 20:01 +0000
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 22:06 +0100
            Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-06 08:21 +0000
              Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-06 10:26 +0100
          Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-14 08:58 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-06 08:20 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
        Re: X et al, When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-08 22:29 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-09 19:20 +0000
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 09:44 -0400
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 16:59 +0100
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-09-05 14:20 +0000
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 16:27 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 12:58 -0400
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 13:01 -0400
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 19:38 +0000
        Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 16:24 -0400
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Rick Umali <rickumali@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 19:40 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-08 11:22 -0700
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-09 16:02 +0000
      Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-09 16:56 +0000
  Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? massimo79m@gmail.com - 2020-09-12 01:39 -0700
    Re: When did mainframes lose commercial dominance? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-17 13:28 -0700

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