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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: S/360 model 20 |
| Date | 2020-09-03 19:49 +0000 |
| Organization | NewsGuy.com |
| Message-ID | <rirhca1ia@news2.newsguy.com> (permalink) |
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On 2020-09-03, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:42:54 AM UTC-4, Jon Elson wrote: > >> I don't think the designers of the 360 had any idea how central to system >> operation disks would quickly become. They were still in the 709x >> generation when they planned this all out. > > Yes. The S/360 history explains how they sold more disk > drives and especially many more disk packs than anticipated. > > Several key IBM engineers quit the company and went into > business for themselves or for other computer makers. > Given the high demand for disk space, there was a market > for disk clones. The same was true with Univac in the late '70s. A lot of sites went to Control Data, who saw a market opening. Univac made all sorts of threats about using CDC packs, which nonetheless worked just fine. Since Univac couldn't meet the demand, they had only themselves to blame (although it was fun to watch the finger-pointing if there was a head crash). > I don't think IBM makes disks anymore, mainframe users > have to get them from somewhere else. Don't know why. Not enough money in it, perhaps? -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult. X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy. / \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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Re: paging, modern computers and S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-08-31 16:10 -0700
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Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 04:40 +0000
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Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 19:09 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 15:41 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2020-09-03 10:44 -0500
Re: S/360 model 20 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 11:51 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-03 16:41 +0000
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Re: S/360 model 20 drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-03 13:32 -0500
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Re: S/360 model 20 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-03 11:09 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-03 11:48 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-03 19:49 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-04 10:06 -0500
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-04 16:13 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 17:30 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-03 22:55 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 19:44 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-04 23:27 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-01 11:03 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2020-09-03 10:42 -0500
Re: S/360 model 20 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-03 11:12 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-03 11:48 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-03 19:49 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-10 11:37 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-10 23:34 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 18:06 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-11 20:41 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 16:21 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Terry Kennedy <terry-groups@glaver.org> - 2020-09-11 17:26 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-12 09:30 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:39 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:46 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 17:41 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-01 11:00 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-01 17:05 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 20:25 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:44 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-11 00:30 -0400
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 06:48 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-11 11:02 -0500
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 11:18 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-10-03 10:29 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-03 07:38 -0700
Re: S/360 model 20 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-03 16:17 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-04 11:24 -0500
Re: S/360 model 20 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-02 00:50 +0000
Re: S/360 model 20 Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2020-09-03 10:51 -0500
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