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Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951

From Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951
Date 2020-08-27 20:12 -0400
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J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:45:20 -0700, Peter Flass
> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 27 Aug 2020 11:59:52 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-08-26, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are you proposing, that passenger railroads be run at a loss so
>>>>> that people who don't like to fly can ride trains?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know about Amtrak in particular, but it is my understanding that
>>>> essentially every passenger railroad in the world runs at a loss and the
>>>> difference is made up by taxpayers' money. An exception may be Japan
>>>> Rail, but some claim this is mostly due to creative accounting.
>>>> 
>>>> It's seen as a worthy goal to encourage riding trains rather than flying
>>>> or driving. I can understand if this is not a palatable message in the
>>>> US political climate.
>>> 
>>> Fine, build a train that can get me to Los Angeles in 8 hours.
>>
>>From where? Riverside?
>>
>>There’s a sweet spot for trains. Obviously cross-country (US and Canada) is
>>not it. The Northeast corridor, and maybe as far south as Miami, LA to San
>>Francisco, although I see the California high speed rail is bogged down in
>>politics. Maybe Dallas to Houston, etc.
>
> Where are you going to put the track in the Northeast Corridor?  It's
> some of the most expensive land in the country.  This is something
> poeple forget about trains--that track has to go all the way along the
> route, it's not like an airport that you can stick in the local swamp.

There is already track there.
I imagine it could be improved for higher speed at rational costs.

I was extremely impressed the last time I rode a train from Linden NJ to
NYC.  I didn't know they had perfected speed control to the point that
you could no longer feel the train accelerate.  It's a pretty pleasant
way to travel.

You can't just stick an airport in a swamp (thankfully).  There's the
matter of roads (or even trains) to get to and from the airport.

-- 
Dan Espen

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OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-24 14:05 -0700
  Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-24 18:50 -0400
    Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-25 14:29 -0700
  Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-08-24 17:29 -0700
    Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-25 14:33 -0700
      Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 18:29 -0400
        Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-26 00:12 +0000
          Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 20:37 -0400
            Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-26 04:47 +0000
              Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 11:37 -0400
        Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-26 14:35 -0700
          Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 18:20 -0400
            Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-26 20:39 -0700
              Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 00:13 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 07:50 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 18:59 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-27 16:04 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-27 11:53 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 19:00 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 16:40 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-28 12:54 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-27 16:58 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-27 18:51 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-27 19:42 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-27 12:03 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 16:40 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-28 08:14 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-28 10:28 +0100
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-28 09:32 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-28 11:10 +0100
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-08-31 17:31 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 19:51 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 14:26 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 19:14 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 14:21 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 00:28 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-08-31 16:23 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-31 19:40 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-09-01 01:39 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-08-31 22:13 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 04:40 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 17:05 -0500
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-01 08:48 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-01 06:34 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 19:09 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-01 16:57 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-02 06:29 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-09-02 03:26 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-02 06:35 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-02 09:42 -0500
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-02 09:53 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-09-02 22:42 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-03 11:38 -0500
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-03 10:16 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-09-20 21:14 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-02 06:35 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-02 11:25 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 04:24 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-01 17:01 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC trains and planes, Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 20:15 -0400
              Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 00:11 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-29 11:34 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-29 21:52 +0000
            Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-26 22:43 -0500
              Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-27 11:52 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 16:40 -0700
            Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-27 11:59 +0000
              Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 07:50 -0700
              Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 19:01 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-27 16:45 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 20:00 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-27 20:12 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 14:20 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 11:13 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-28 07:20 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 13:13 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 13:38 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 16:51 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-28 11:28 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-28 18:38 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 18:50 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 18:46 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 16:52 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-28 15:15 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 18:29 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-28 23:19 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-28 18:08 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-29 00:58 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 22:47 -0400
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-29 02:51 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-29 03:25 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-29 11:28 -0700
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 14:21 -0500
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-28 23:12 +0100
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 22:51 +0000
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 08:17 -0500
                Re: OFF TOPIC Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 00:14 +0000
  Re: OFF TOPIC  Sante Fe Super Chief ad, 1951 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-29 11:36 -0700

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