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Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)

From Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!)
Date 2020-08-16 21:04 -0400
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J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:23:18 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The next few pages and a bunch more spelling corrections
>>>> I get up and walk out.  I go back to my office
>>>> and send the whole group an long email explainging
>>>> why the entire approach was wrong and they were
>>>> designing something useless.
>>>
>>> Why the heck would you do this in a meeting? Of course there are no
>>> secretaries any more, but it used to be possible to give this to a good
>>> secretary and ask “could you go over this and fix spelling and grammar.”
>>> and expect to get it back all cleaned up in an hour or so.
>>
>>No secretaries at that time.
>>Well, a few levels up in management and he'd have a personal secretary.
>>Not that I'd expect that would have satisfied these people.
>>The front of the document had things like definition of terms,
>>expected audience, a bunch of boiler plate.
>>
>>The truth was, there were people that knew what they were doing
>>surrounded by a host of hangers on that had no clue.
>>But they sure could debate for hours about whether it was MVS or
>>z/OS and whether SunOS needed a trademark symbol.
>
> Were any of them lawyers?  If not then they should have left that sort
> of thing to the professionals.
>
>>Meetings have a momentum all their own.
>>Someone suggests we need to review the document a page at a time
>>and that's damn well what we're all going to do.
>>
>>Oh, geez, I must sound like an old cynic.
>
> Nahh, just somebody who, like me, has been in one too many bullshit
> meetings.
>
> My faves were the ones at the court reporting outfit, where there
> would be a daily meeting that started at 1 and lasted until 4 in which
> we all sat around watching the owner of the company talk on the phone.
> I finally convinced her to change those to one a week.  One a month
> was too much to hope for.  She's also the one who woke up one Saturday
> morning having a panic attack, called an immediate meeting, and sent
> the cops looking for people who didn't show up.  So when we finally
> got there, it was another four hours of watching her talk on the
> phone.

See, this is why I hang out on these discussion groups.
That's so funny.

I don't know for sure what I would have done if I was at that place but
it wouldn't have been pretty.

Daily meetings?  That's my definition of hell.
That control freak I was talking about was put in charge of our group
and changed our status meetings from monthly to weekly.  I think I made
3 weeks before I bailed.

We had one member in that group who was carrying a really heavy work
load.  She'd been in that position for 20 years.  Her project used
to have 10 people and she ended up handling the whole thing on her own.
The new boss really bore down on her in particular.
She was reviewing (in the meeting)
every little task she had.  And in one week there were dozens of them.
I felt so sorry for her.  Especially when I decided, F this I'm out of
here.  I was really fortunate I'd known the new bosses boss and the
next boss up the line for a long, long time.

So it's funny about that control freak.
I stopped going to her meetings and soon after I went and sat down with
her boss and told him what I thought.  About 6 months went by before
her boss got back to me and gave me a new boss to report to.
During that time I saw her once when she gave me a salary review
and raise.  (Reasonable raise.)  She never said a word to me about me
not showing up for status meetings.  Maybe she got read the riot act
but she still abused everyone else.

Well, this stuff is not exactly computer folklore.  I guess
computer department folklore is close enough.

-- 
Dan Espen

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Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 13:44 +0100
  Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 11:16 -0500
    Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:55 +0100
      Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 14:47 -0500
        Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 21:30 +0100
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 21:24 +0000
            Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:38 -0700
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 17:35 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 22:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 23:54 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 00:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:57 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:54 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 20:38 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 15:28 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:33 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:32 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:41 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 07:14 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 06:43 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:10 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 13:43 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:50 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:06 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:41 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:24 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:34 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:18 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:47 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 05:57 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:20 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-14 11:44 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 12:24 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 19:50 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 14:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:31 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:00 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 18:18 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 18:51 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 15:03 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 12:09 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 20:15 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 21:42 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 16:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-15 21:01 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:07 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:46 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 17:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 18:56 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-16 15:56 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:16 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 19:23 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 20:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 21:04 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 22:31 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 23:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:44 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-17 04:27 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 10:39 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 07:52 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:20 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:33 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 16:43 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-17 19:11 -0300
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 19:53 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 22:23 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-23 14:22 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 08:11 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 14:07 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:35 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 07:07 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 12:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 12:49 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-20 17:15 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 14:19 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 16:25 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 17:14 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 19:29 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 19:37 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 19:43 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:36 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:40 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-20 20:51 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-20 21:14 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 17:32 -0400
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Scams) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-02 16:54 +0000
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-20 08:13 +0100
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                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-18 10:19 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 05:00 -0500
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:38 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 11:45 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-18 07:58 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-18 12:02 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-19 21:49 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:39 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 13:29 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 14:36 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 20:01 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:41 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-15 00:02 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 18:05 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:04 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 11:26 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:16 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-14 16:11 +0000
              Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 12:00 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-13 13:48 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:01 -0400
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-14 03:34 +0200
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 13:01 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 13:47 +0100
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-13 14:28 +0000
                Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
          Re: Compliments to Microsoft ! (Yes, Really!) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 12:15 -0500

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