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Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:17 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:01:40 +0400, Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> wrote:
>
>>Hi, I read you descrption and I read the answers. I admit that I do
>>frown about some answers. 
>>
>>Okay, so I will give it a try. 
>>
>>Key problem might be the HDD. It has several areas. One area is for the
>>data. But one totally different area is for booting, where the MBR is.
>>Some HDDs are reported fine, but the MBR space can not be correctly
>>written to. These HDDs one can only use for data, but one cannot boot
>>from them. From time to time such HDDs are sold at eBay's. So one has to
>>watch out NOT to buy such one if one wants to USE the computer with that
>>HDD, booting from it. 
>>
>>During installation the Win XP wrote onto HDD. So writing in the data
>>area of the HDD seems to work. 
>>
>>A strange problem might be HOW the HDD is access ("LBA") or other stuff.
>>I you prepared the HDD in an other computer, THAT VERY SETTING of the
>>OTHER computer is used for addressing on HDD. Might be that there are
>>differences in the parameters of both BIOSes. You ought to check them. 
>>
>>About some MBR write-to preventions I have no clue. If a BIOS would have
>>such a parameter, I would not enable it. Also, the question is how the
>>installer of Win XP would react to such a write-barrier. 
>>
>>That some Thinkpads would REQUIRE the HDD to be prepared on THAT VERY
>>THINKPAD where the HDD then is to be used I consider wrong. I guess that
>>in those cases some addressing was not done correctly.
>>
>>An easy mistake to make is to install the OS completely correct, but
>>spoil addressing of drive 1 and drive 2. You ought to check the jumpers
>>on the HDD and look at time of boot into the BIOS and see how the HDD is
>>recognized, as drive 1 or drive 2 - or simple "have none". 
>>
>>
>>One test to make is to prepare the HDD on an other computer AND THERE
>>install Win XP and see if it boots there. 
>>
>>One more test, quite simple and easy: install an other OS. Check it THAT
>>is able to boot on the HDD. 
>>
>>Win XP is rather stupid. Before installing it, the partitioning should
>>be done correctly and the "active" partition for booting must have the
>>marker set in the partition table.
>>
>>One more pothole is how the boot actually is done. You ought to check
>>the sequence for booting. Might be that the boot gets stuck by accessing
>>some other device? The XP installs I had were prone for messing up with
>>a) partitioning and b) sequence of devices. 
>>
>>
>>So, you have some days of work ahead... ;O) 
>
>Really when one needs a new Windows computer one needs a new computer

No.

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  Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-01-15 21:01 +0400
    Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2013-01-16 15:59 +1100
      Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-01-17 11:19 +0400
        Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 12:25 +1100
    Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped "Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> - 2013-01-16 19:20 +1100
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  Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped "S Campbell" <campbellfam@no.spam> - 2013-02-05 19:49 +1000
    Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-02-06 09:33 +0400
      Re: IBM Thinkpad R30 - stumped Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-02-06 10:39 +0400
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