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Re: [PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:25:04AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:24:13AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > If we use sc->reclaim_idx for accounting pgstall, it can increase
> > the count on unpopulated zone, for example, movable zone(but
> > my system doesn't have movable zone) if allocation request were
> > GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE. It doesn't make no sense.
> > 
> 
> I wanted to track the highest zone allowed by each allocation regardless
> of what the zone population state was. Otherwise, consider the following
> on a NUMA system
> 
> 1. An allocation request arrives for GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE that stalls
> 2. System has two nodes, node 0 with ZONE_NORMAL, node 1 with ZONE_HIGHMEM
> 3. If the allocating process is on node 0, the stall is accounted on ZONE_NORMAL
> 4. If the allocatinn process is on node 1, the stall is accounted on ZONE_HIGHMEM
> 
> Multiple runs of the same workload on the same machine will see stall
> statistics on different zones and renders the stat useless. This is
> difficult to analyse because stalls accounted for on ZONE_NORMAL may or
> may not be zone-constrained allocations.

Fair enough.
For the allocstall, it would be better to show the requested zone.

> 
> The patch means that the vmstat accounting and tracepoint data is also
> out of sync. One thing I wanted to be able to do was
> 
> 1. Observe that there are alloc stalls on DMA32 or some other low zone
> 2. Activate mm_vmscan_direct_reclaim_begin, filter on classzone_idx ==
>    DMA32 and identify the source of the lowmem allocations
> 
> If your patch is applied, I cannot depend on the stall stats any more
> and the tracepoint is required to determine if there really any
> zone-contrained allocations. It can be *inferred* from the skip stats
> but only if such skips occurred and that is not guaranteed.

Just a nit:

Hmm, can't we omit classzone_idx in mm_vm_scan_direct_begin_template?
Because every functions already have gfp_flags so that we can classzone_idx
via gfp_zone(gfp_flags) without passing it.


> 
> -- 
> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs

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[PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2016-07-13 04:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> - 2016-07-13 11:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2016-07-14 03:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> - 2016-07-14 11:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] mm: fix pgalloc_stall on unpopulated zone Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2016-07-14 11:00 +0200

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