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Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc?

From Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc?
Date 2016-06-28 19:40 +0200
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Cong Wang wrote:

> > BTW, I've started to actually work on fixing this, and I've noticed that
> > TBF behavior actually violates what's stated in pfifo_fast manpage:
> >
> > ==========
> >         Whenever  an  interface is created, the pfifo_fast qdisc is
> >         automatically used as a queue. If another qdisc is
> >         attached, it preempts the default pfifo_fast, which automatically
> >         returns to function when an  existing  qdisc is detached.
> >
> >         In this sense this qdisc is magic, and unlike other qdiscs.
> > ==========
> 
> It is out of date, now default qdisc can be set to any other qdisc
> via /proc. Also, probably due to historical reasons, we don't have
> a unified default default qdisc, some uses bfifo, some uses pfifo,
> we may break some existing script if we change that.

While I do understand that reasoning, I'd argue that unpredictable and 
unexpected behavior of TBF causing systems with non-working networking is 
much more likely than any userspace having hard dependency on the fact 
that default (*) qdisc for TBF is noop.

(*) where 'default upon creation' != 'default when reset'

Thanks,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

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Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc? Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-06-28 17:20 +0200
  Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc? Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 19:30 +0200
    Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc? Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> - 2016-06-28 19:40 +0200

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