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Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940

From Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com>
Newsgroups alt.history.what-if
Subject Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940
Date 2020-05-09 16:09 +0000
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WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1:54:12 PM UTC-7, Rich Rostrom wrote:
>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> > Do you seriously think that the remnants of the 
>> > monarchist Deutsche National Volksparti (DNVP) were 
>> > in any position to do more than harumph at Hitler by 
>> > 1940? PARTICULARLY after he had just beaten France 
>> > which the Kaiser didn't?
>> 
>> Of course not. In summer 1940, Hitler could have done
>> anything he wanted, short of proclaiming himself the
>> younger brother of Jesus (or Thor).
>> 
>> But usurping the Imperial crown would have been deeply
>> offensive to many German conservatives - including
>> army officers. It would also offend a lot of Nazis,
>> believe it or not. Part of the Nazi mythos was that
>> this was the _Third_ Reich, which would carry forward
>> into Germany's glorious future, not a revival of the
>> failed Second Reich, infested by hereditary twits who
>> strutted about in fancy uniforms.
>> 
>> Hitler had no real use for the title, anyway. It was
>> not an "ancient" title, redolent of past glories -
>> it was a recent creation, dressed up in tacky rituals
>> and costumery.
> 
> Technically speaking, though, Hitler wouldn't actually be recreating the 
> Second Reich here--any more than the Second Reich was a recreation of the First 
> Reich. Rather, he would still be creating a Third Reich but with a new royal 
> dynasty (the Hitler dynasty) rather than with a continuing Fuhrer regime.

So perhaps he might have had a motive once he had a child,if he could.

But as it was his ideology was not that of the monarchists he saw
as "useful idiots" (to use the phrase attributed to Lenin).

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-03 17:05 -0700
  Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com> - 2020-05-04 05:03 +0000
  Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 David Tenner <dtenner@ameritech.net> - 2020-05-04 11:32 +0000
    Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-04 13:06 -0700
      Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2020-05-04 18:42 -0700
        Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2020-05-05 15:25 +1000
        Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 graham.truesdale@gmail.com - 2020-05-05 11:37 -0700
          Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 Rich Rostrom <rrostrom@comcast.net> - 2020-05-05 14:55 -0500
            Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-05 15:55 -0700
            Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2020-05-05 19:26 -0700
              Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 Rich Rostrom <rrostrom@comcast.net> - 2020-05-06 15:54 -0500
                Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-06 18:55 -0700
                Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com> - 2020-05-09 16:09 +0000
              Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 graham.truesdale@gmail.com - 2020-05-06 14:21 -0700
                Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2020-05-06 17:25 -0700
        Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-05 15:57 -0700
        Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com> - 2020-05-05 15:58 -0700
  Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 graham.truesdale@gmail.com - 2020-05-04 12:37 -0700
  Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 Ingo Siekmann <ingo-siekmann@web.de> - 2020-05-05 11:58 +0200
  Re: Adolf Hitler crowns himself the German Kaiser after the Fall of France in 1940 mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2020-05-08 00:40 -0500

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