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| From | Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Adobe Flash |
| Date | 2015-11-22 01:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qxqeu-403-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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El 18/11/15 a las 17:39, Ric Moore escribió:
> On 11/18/2015 02:24 PM, moxalt wrote:
>
>> I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as
>> Linux, is
>> in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus
>> Linux.
> Depends who's version of the definition of OS you use:
> Here's a quote from "The design of the unix operating system", Maurice
> J. Bach, Prentice/Hall, 1986, page 4:
>
> The operating system interacts directly with the hardware,
> providing common services to programs and insulating them from hardware
> idiosyncrasies. Viewing the system as a set of layers, the operating
> system is commonly called the system kernel, or just the kernel,
> emphasizing its isolation from user programs. Because programs are
> independent of the underlying hardware, it is easy to move them between
> UNIX systems running on different hardware if the programs do not make
> assumptions about the underlying hardware."
> http://linux.topology.org/lingl.html
> "Personally, I am against re-defining the English language for political
> and marketing purposes."
>
> There ya go. Ric
There is a common false justification for calling the operating system
"Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux". Anybody who really thinks that Linux is
an operating system because operating system is synonymous with kernel
must start talking about "The kernel of {FreeBSD, Windows, OS X,
etcetera}" as the operating system as well for otherwise he'd be an
hypocrite in applying his own argument inconsistently instead of
acknowledging his own mistake in that in the modern meaning of
"operating system", Linux is NOT an operating system. The modern word
for that meaning of "operating system" is "kernel".
By the way, according to Debian, GNU/Linux is an OS and Linux is a
kernel. Look at the OS title ("Debian GNU/Linux") and package names.
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Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 01:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-11-20 01:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-20 08:00 +0100
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Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash) moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 05:50 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:00 +0100
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Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash) moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 13:40 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-21 14:50 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. Mauro Condarelli <mc5686@mclink.it> - 2015-11-21 15:00 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 18:20 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. Mauro Condarelli <mc5686@mclink.it> - 2015-11-21 18:40 +0100
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Re: The word 'should'. moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-22 04:10 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 05:20 +0100
Re: The word 'should'. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 12:20 +0100
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Re: Adobe Flash Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 00:40 +0100
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The word 'should' Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 04:50 +0100
Re: The word 'should' John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-22 05:00 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 12:20 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2015-11-22 17:50 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 18:00 +0100
Re: The word 'should' moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-22 20:00 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 23:40 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 23:40 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-23 00:00 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-23 00:10 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-23 00:40 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-23 00:40 +0100
Re: The word 'should' Ben Stones <ben@b3ns.com> - 2015-11-23 01:30 +0100
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Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-20 07:50 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-20 09:30 +0100
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Re: Adobe Flash John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-21 05:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 05:50 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Glenn English <ghe@srv.slsware.net> - 2015-11-21 08:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-21 09:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-21 10:20 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-21 14:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 18:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 13:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 13:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-11-21 10:20 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-21 15:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:20 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 18:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 19:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-22 02:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 18:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 05:50 +0100
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Re: Adobe Flash Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-20 15:00 +0100
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Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-11-21 13:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 13:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-11-21 14:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-21 18:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 19:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-22 04:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-11-22 14:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 14:50 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 00:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-22 01:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-22 04:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 16:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-22 19:50 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-23 00:10 +0100
"operating system" Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-11-23 02:50 +0100
pointless linguistic one-upmanship (was Re: "operating system") Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2015-11-23 10:40 +0100
Re: pointless linguistic one-upmanship (was Re: "operating system") Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2015-11-23 20:30 +0100
Re: pointless linguistic one-upmanship (was Re: "operating system") Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-11-24 11:30 +0100
Re: pointless linguistic one-upmanship (was Re: "operating system") moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-11-24 15:50 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-11-18 19:40 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Tom Ashley <tomashleyjr@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 22:10 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 00:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-11-19 01:00 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 01:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Tom Ashley <tomashleyjr@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 02:30 +0100
Re: Adobe Flash Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-11-19 02:30 +0100
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