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Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop
Date 2020-01-05 14:26 +0100
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On 04/01/2020 22:47, Keith Thompson wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> 
>> On 04/01/2020 18:43, Walter H. wrote:
>>> On 04.01.2020 17:20, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> "Walter H."<Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info>  writes:
>>>>
>>>> Most (all?) 64-bit Linux systems have 64-bit long.
>>>
>>> I see, and this fact reduces the portability to a minimum;
>>> 64-bit Windows systems have 32-bit long.
>>
>> I think you have that backwards - the fact that MS decided to make
>> "long" on 64-bit Windows merely 32-bit, when the rest of the 64-bit
>> world had 64-bit long, reduced portability.
> [...]
> 
> Yes and no.
> 
> Making long 32 bits while most other 64-bit platforms make it 64
> bits limits the portability of code that assumes that long is 64
> bits, or that pointers are the same size as long.
> 
> Making long 64 bits would limit the portability of code that assumes
> that long is 32 bits -- and apparently there's a lot of code like
> that on Windows.
> 
> Either choice is perfectly valid, and does not hurt the portability
> of well-written code that doesn't assume a particular size for
> type long.  Microsoft had a choice between possibly breaking code
> written for other platforms, and possibly breaking code written
> for earlier versions of Windows.  I find it difficult to argue that
> they made the wrong choice.
> 

I was not arguing that MS made the wrong choice - I understand why they 
did it.  (Even then, it can't have been an easy choice - they stayed 
compatible with Windows programmers who thought "long means 32-bit", but 
they would have trouble with Windows programmers who thought "long means 
the same size as a pointer".)

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for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-03 13:27 +0100
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 14:01 +0100
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-03 13:18 +0000
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 08:28 -0500
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-03 13:33 +0000
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 21:10 -0500
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 15:34 +0100
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 08:26 -0500
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-04 16:15 +0100
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-04 17:17 +0100
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 16:20 +0000
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-04 18:43 +0100
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-04 19:28 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-04 18:59 +0000
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-05 14:24 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 13:47 -0800
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-05 14:26 +0100
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-06 20:31 +0100
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 22:25 +0000
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 14:08 -0800
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-04 21:32 -0500
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-01-05 21:48 +0000
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-04 21:43 -0500
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 14:47 +0100
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-03 14:39 +0000
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 15:42 +0100
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-03 15:07 +0000
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 16:18 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 16:47 +0100
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-03 20:41 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 01:05 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-03 18:30 +0000
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-04 00:23 -0600
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 08:10 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-01-04 16:41 +0000
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 17:44 +0100
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-04 11:15 +0000
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-04 12:33 +0000
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-04 15:59 +0100
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 16:01 +0100
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-04 16:04 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 17:06 +0100
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-01-04 16:42 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 17:44 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-04 17:55 -0600
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-06 20:43 +0100
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-01-06 19:50 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-01-06 15:37 -0500
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-01-06 21:59 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-06 17:33 -0600
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-03 18:31 +0000
        Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 01:06 +0100
          Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 01:38 +0000
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 08:10 +0100
              Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 16:39 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 17:41 +0100
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-04 17:49 +0100
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 22:49 +0000
                Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 03:44 +0100
            Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-04 13:09 +0100
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-03 14:28 +0000
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2020-01-05 00:40 +0100
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop "Walter H." <Walter.H-Nntp@mathemainzel.info> - 2020-01-06 20:50 +0100
      Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2020-01-06 21:28 +0100
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2020-01-06 21:02 +0100
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-11 10:01 -0800
  Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-04 16:21 -0500
    Re: for-loop mutates to an endless-loop Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-04 22:17 +0000

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