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Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 09:03:20PM -0400, Doug wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/28/2015 12:39 AM, David Christensen wrote:
> >On 10/27/2015 06:10 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> >>You are free to study the source code and help the OP solve his problem.
> >
> >Sorry -- that sounds harsh.
> >
> >
> >I say "study the source code" [...]

> I am not a programmer [...]

Who is? I write programms and still the innards of GCC are very
difficult for me to get at.

> What percentage of Debian users does anyone reading this believe to
> be able to read the source code (if they even know where to look to
> find it) and then to modify it to suit their needs?
>
> Surely Linux was a programmer's wonderland when it came out in 1995,
> but it is now a system which even grandmothers are using. I would not
> ever suggest that it become closed source--as I suspect one or two
> distros may be on the way to--but it should be realized that its
> original wonderfulness is lost on the majority of modern-day users.

In one thing I agree: Free Software in itself is useless. You need
the users who know and appreciate the advantages.

In one thing I disagree most decidedly: being fatalist about the
"dumb users". We have to keep up easing access to others, so that
Free actually works, because it presupposes users who can, in a
pinch, help themselves.

Let's go teach grandma (why not grandpa as well?) functional
programming! [1]

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[1] Yeah, oversimplified and that: but still: Free is useless if it
is inaccessible. There are many aspects to accessibility: good docs,
well-written programs and the saturday afternoon thing in which we
exchange cookies for "teach me how to write a bug report" (yes, this
saturday I'll have some cookies, looking forward).

regards
- -- tomás
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Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Anton Bizzarri <anton.bizzari@drgit.ca> - 2015-10-22 23:50 +0200
  Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-23 04:10 +0200
    Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-26 00:00 +0100
      Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Anton Bizzarri <anton.bizzari@drgit.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:20 +0100
        Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2015-10-26 18:30 +0100
        Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-27 04:50 +0100
          Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2015-10-27 12:40 +0100
            Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-28 02:20 +0100
              Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-28 05:40 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-28 06:10 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-28 09:20 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-28 10:20 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2015-10-28 10:40 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 12:20 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2015-10-28 14:00 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 14:10 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-28 14:40 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-28 21:10 +0100
              Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-29 03:40 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Anton Bizzarri <anton.bizzari@drgit.ca> - 2015-10-29 03:50 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-29 04:00 +0100
            Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume Anton Bizzarri <anton.bizzari@drgit.ca> - 2015-10-29 02:00 +0100
              Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-29 03:30 +0100
                Re: Lost LVM data - lost logical volume David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-10-29 03:40 +0100

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