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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. |
| Date | 2019-08-22 16:07 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <qjm7ib$paf$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 22/08/2019 15:17, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 21.08.2019 21:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>>> For example, I remember `$` being used in the system API in the HP3000.
>>>> That's long ago, 1980s, but presumably use of `$` in system API function
>>>> names was part of the reasons why compilers supported it. And continue
>>>> to support it.
>>>
>>> OpenVMS uses $ in identifiers (and C and C++ compilers for OpenVMS have
>>> to allow for that). Which is why, in my opinion, the standard *should*
>>> allow compilers to accept $ in identifiers.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Yes, I should have written MPE/IV, the OS we used on the HP3000. Sorry.
>
> Which HP3000 language allowed '$' in identifiers? On most HP3000
> compilers the $ was used in column 1 to introduce compiler control
> commands, for example in SPL/3000:
>
> $TITLE "SON OF OVERLORD (SOO)"
> $CONTROL USLINIT,NOWARN,MAP,CODE
> $CONTROL SEGMENT=SOO
> BEGIN ...
>
> SPL did allow apostrophes in identifiers:
>
> INTEGER PRIORITY, XDS'SUB, MAXPCB', MODE;
>
> The engineers that designed the HP3000 were mostly ex-burroughs
> engineers, which is where the use of $ as a compiler control
> originated.
>
>>
>> It's possible that all this is tied to the attempt to remove `$` in
>> ASCII, as I recall instigated by Russia or France, a political thing.
>
> C'est what?
>
>> I
>> mean, tied by the baffling decision to not include `$` in the C++ basic
>> execution character set.
>
> Maybe because the '$' symbol was often substited with a national
> symbol (e.g. the british pound symbol); it wasn't a fixed glyph
> worldwide.
>
It was the # symbol that was replaced by £ in the GB version of ISO-646,
and on British keyboards. The $ sign remained. (Also ~ was replaced by
an overbar ‾, but I've no idea why.)
The $ symbol was kept in most, but not all, ISO-646 character sets. It
was more common to replace characters like # { } [ ] | and ~ , all of
which are still there in C (but have trigraphs).
On a related topic, what is the rationale behind the choice of
characters allowed in universal character identifiers? There seems to
be a vague attempt to allow "letters" but not "symbols". Surely
allowing symbols like ¤ £ and § would be ideal for the kind of thing Alf
has in his library - characters that would not conflict with anything
else, stand out clearly, and can by typed easily on many keyboard
layouts (even with Windows).
Perhaps € would be a good choice - it is in the list of allowed Unicode
identifier characters.
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An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 03:36 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-02 11:22 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-08-02 02:33 -0700
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Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-20 02:12 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-19 18:31 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-20 08:42 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-20 02:18 -0700
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Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-20 13:00 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-20 14:59 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-21 10:29 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-21 11:14 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-21 02:55 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-21 12:30 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-21 14:22 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-21 12:41 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-22 03:38 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-21 19:24 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-08-21 23:21 -0400
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-22 06:01 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-08-22 00:26 -0400
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-22 07:54 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-08-22 09:08 -0400
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-22 19:37 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-08-22 13:17 +0000
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-08-22 16:07 +0200
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-08-21 02:42 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. Frederick Gotham <cauldwell.thomas@gmail.com> - 2019-08-20 04:09 -0700
Re: An example: code to list exports of a Windows DLL. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-08-20 17:24 -0700
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