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Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m

From "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups uk.radio.amateur
Subject Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m
Date 2019-08-19 18:25 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <qjem2d$fee$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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"mm0fmf" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message 
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> On 17/08/2019 17:05, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> In message <g9WdnRql-IlhgMXAnZ2dnUU78XfNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Peter 
>> Able <stuck@home.com> writes
>>> On 17/08/2019 15:58, mm0fmf wrote:
>>>> I apologise in advance for a serious radio related topic on this group 
>>>> but here we go.
>>>> Ian, you jokingly mentioned the problem with 70cms was it was 159.3m 
>>>> too short and that got me thinking about 160m. I've never had a 160m 
>>>> QSO in 29 years of activity. I've never been motivated to try the band. 
>>>> So what makes 160m something of interest to you after you've been 
>>>> active for 60 years or so?
>>>>
>>> I'd guess that for those of us of that age it is the womb where we were 
>>> nurtured.,,:). Loran, Portishead, TT11 PAs, HROs
>>>
>>> AaaaaH!
>>>
>> You've put it better and more succinctly than I could. There was 
>> something magic about radio in those days, with a high proportion of 
>> newcomers being young, and either making their own gear or using 'war 
>> surplus' equipment - often modifying it to improve its performance. The 
>> fact that I was able to get an endfed fullwave up (over a river and at 
>> around 70' or 80' at the highest point) also helped!
>
> Cheers for that Ian and Peter. I expected there to be something like that 
> was involved, a soft spot for how things were etc.
>
> I did some Googling into top band stuff and found Mike G4KFK's page of top 
> band articles which I've been reading. What is obvious looking at some of 
> the older valved gear is how delightfully simple and elegant AM/CW 
> transmitters can be. It's brought home as my job deals with multi-million 
> lines of software, GB of data resulting in multi-billion transistor chips. 
> An unforgiving sea of complexity that's difficult to get a good overall 
> view of what's happening. Something with a few valves appeals even if my 
> chassis work skills are rough.
>
> Then there's getting an effective antenna for the band installed into the 
> typical UK postage stamp garden.
>
> I'll leave this to degenerate now as all things on here always do.
>
>
no  no...after you chebs ....

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Ping Ian Jackson 160m mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-08-17 15:58 +0100
  Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Peter Able <stuck@home.com> - 2019-08-17 15:32 +0100
    Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 17:05 +0100
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2019-08-17 18:09 +0100
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Peter Able <stuck@home.com> - 2019-08-17 17:46 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 20:00 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-18 08:28 +0000
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 19:59 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2019-08-17 21:14 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 21:16 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 21:58 +0100
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-18 11:36 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-18 08:28 +0000
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-18 08:56 +0000
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 19:57 +0100
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-08-19 18:06 +0100
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 18:25 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 18:31 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 18:05 +0000
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 18:20 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 19:25 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> - 2019-08-19 19:52 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 20:23 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-08-19 19:27 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 19:29 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-08-19 21:20 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 21:27 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Roger Breedle <rb@rmb.invalid> - 2019-08-19 19:37 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Jim <jim@jim.jim.jim.invalid> - 2019-08-19 19:54 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 20:29 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 20:28 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 19:35 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 20:37 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2019-08-20 06:40 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-20 07:56 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2019-08-20 09:41 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-20 10:46 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2019-08-20 11:03 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Jeefaw K Effkay <mike.gathergood@googlemail.com> - 2019-08-20 05:17 -0700
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-20 14:50 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Jeefaw K Effkay <mike.gathergood@googlemail.com> - 2019-08-20 07:56 -0700
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-20 18:18 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Jeff <jeff@ukra.com> - 2019-08-21 09:43 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-21 11:48 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-19 20:17 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> - 2019-08-20 07:31 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-20 06:41 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-19 20:27 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-19 21:48 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Jeefaw K Effkay <mike.gathergood@googlemail.com> - 2019-08-19 15:19 -0700
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-19 20:49 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2019-08-20 11:07 +1000
                Re: Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2019-08-20 10:30 +0200
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> - 2019-08-19 19:55 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 19:13 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Bernie <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 22:19 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-20 07:58 +0100
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2019-08-19 18:05 +0000
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-19 21:44 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Peter Able <stuck@home.com> - 2019-08-21 18:52 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-21 20:40 +0100
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2019-08-21 21:41 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-21 21:46 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> - 2019-08-21 23:12 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Bernie <bernie.usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-08-21 23:40 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-22 06:25 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2019-08-22 06:45 +0000
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2019-08-22 09:33 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-22 08:00 +0000
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-22 10:19 +0100
    Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-17 17:46 +0000
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2019-08-17 20:53 +0100
    Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 20:41 +0100
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-18 08:30 +0000
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2019-08-18 11:18 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-18 11:37 +0100
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> - 2019-08-18 20:06 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-18 20:59 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2019-08-19 08:23 +0000
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2019-08-19 10:28 +0100
  Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 20:02 +0100
    Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 20:15 +0100
      Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 20:56 +0100
        Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 21:17 +0100
          Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 22:00 +0100
            Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 22:12 +0100
              Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 22:14 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 22:28 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-17 23:02 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2019-08-18 07:31 +0100
                Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-18 07:32 +0100
    Re: Ping Ian Jackson 160m "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2019-08-18 12:00 +0100

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