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Re: debian-user list problem

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: debian-user list problem
Date 2015-10-11 16:00 +0200
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps.
> > > 
> > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one?
> > 
> > Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail headers (some excerpts):
> 
> I think I prefer the crystal ball method. :)

I was too terse. I wanted to say that my method involves crystal ball
parts and header reading parts.

> > | From bounce-debian-user=tomas=tuxteam.de@lists.debian.org Sun Oct 11 13:34:12 2015
> > | [...]
> > | Received: from bendel.debian.org ([82.195.75.100])
> > | [...]
> > | DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> > |         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
> > | [...]
> > | X-Received: by 10.194.52.106 with SMTP id s10mr23519981wjo.35.1444565316213;
> > |         Sun, 11 Oct 2015 05:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
> > | Received: from [192.168.2.21] (ARouen-655-1-43-67.w92-152.abo.wanadoo.fr. [92.152.186.67])
> > |         by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm6597978wia.19.2015.10.11.05.08.35
> > |         (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
> > |         Sun, 11 Oct 2015 05:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
> > | Message-ID: <561A5142.603@gmail.com>
> > | [...]
> 
> This shows a mail received by bendel.debian.org *from* gmail. It says 
> nothing about the OP's subscribed address (where mails are *sent to*
> from the list). It does show your subscribed address, however.

This is the crystal ball part :-)

> I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers
> of the first mail in this thread is.
> 
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,                                     
>         DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST,                                
>         RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0

This is the spam checker on Bendel: if this one got triggered, we wouldn't
see the original poster's mail at all (with some additional crystal ball
I'd say that is one of the factors Spam Assassin is using is that the sender
is LDO ("lists.debian.org" suggests itself) subscriber, which probably (hopefully?)
will lower the spam score.

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 12:20 +0200
  Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 12:40 +0200
    Re: debian-user list problem "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-10-11 13:20 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 13:30 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 13:40 +0200
    Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 13:30 +0200
  Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 12:40 +0200
    Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 14:10 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 14:20 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 14:40 +0200
          Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 14:40 +0200
          Solved_Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 20:30 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 14:20 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 14:30 +0200
          Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 14:40 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 14:40 +0200
          Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 15:00 +0200
            Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 15:50 +0200
              Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 16:10 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 17:40 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 20:00 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 21:20 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 22:00 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem Francesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it> - 2015-10-11 14:20 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-11 14:30 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-11 20:10 +0200
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          Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 20:30 +0200
            Re: debian-user list problem moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-12 17:10 +0200
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              Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 17:50 +0200
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          Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:00 +0200
            Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 23:50 +0200
              Re: debian-user list problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 00:00 +0200
                Re: debian-user list problem maderios <maderios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:30 +0200
      Re: debian-user list problem Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 18:10 +0200
        Re: debian-user list problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-11 20:00 +0200

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