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Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support

From "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support
Date 2015-10-05 22:10 +0200
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On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:36:35PM +0300, Vlad Zolotarov wrote:
> >And then there's the issue of why we even need this, why not just
> >write a whole new driver for this, like the previous driver did (which
> >also used ioctls, yes, I didn't have the chance to object to that before
> >everyone else did...)
> 
> Which "previous driver" do u refer here?
> IMHO writing something instead of UIO (not just uio_pci_generic) seems like
> an overkill for solving this issue. Supporting MSI-X interrupts seem like a
> very beneficial feature for uio_pci_generic and it's really not _THAT_
> complicated API - just look at VFIO for a comparison... ;)

Except most things VFIO does is actually there for security.
Which, for a device that can do DMA and isn't even behind an IOMMU,
sounds like a pretty big deal actually.

> uio_pci_generic is clearly missing this important feature. And creating
> another user space driver infrastructure just to add it seems extremely
> unjustified.

uio_pci_generic was always intended to be used with extremely simple
devices which don't do DMA, or where someone else has set up the IOMMU
(like kvm does with CONFIG_KVM_DEVICE_ASSIGNMENT).

We need to be much more careful with MSI if there's no IOMMU.

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[PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic driver Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-04 22:50 +0200
  [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-04 22:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 05:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 09:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 11:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-05 13:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 15:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 13:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 13:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-05 13:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 14:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-05 10:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 11:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-05 12:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 16:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 16:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 17:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 17:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 21:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> - 2015-10-06 23:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 23:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-07 10:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-07 10:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-07 10:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-07 09:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-07 18:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-07 23:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 06:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 09:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 10:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 11:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 11:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 14:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 07:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 09:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 10:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 11:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 11:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 14:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 14:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 18:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 19:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 19:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 20:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-08 20:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 10:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 11:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 11:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 12:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-08 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 17:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> - 2015-10-07 18:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-07 22:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-07 10:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-08 10:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 16:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 17:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> - 2015-10-05 10:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 11:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-05 22:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 11:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-05 21:20 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-04 22:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 05:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 09:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-05 11:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-05 22:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 00:30 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 10:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 16:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 16:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 17:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 17:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 18:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-05 22:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 10:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 16:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 16:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 17:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 18:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 17:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-06 17:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Gleb Natapov <gleb@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 18:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-06 18:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com> - 2015-10-07 12:30 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic  driver "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2015-10-07 12:30 +0200

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