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Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD

From William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD
Date 2019-06-18 21:37 +0000
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On 2019-06-18, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
> Il 18/06/19 13:52, Pascal Hambourg ha scritto:
>> Le 17/06/2019 à 02:05, Soviet_Mario a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> So this I think is not a home sharing, just DATA sharing 
>>>>> : just home relocation in a shared drive.
>>>>
>>>> May I ask why you want to do this ?
>>>> Why don't you simply want to create separate filesystems 
>>>> for each OS /home ?
>>>
>>> for record : I'm reading this AFTER my reply in the other 
>>> thread. So, well, I did not actually forget or paid little 
>>> attention : I hadn't read it already when I opened the 
>>> other thread.
>> 
>> All fine.
>
> good !
>
>> Now do you mind to explain why you want to do this ?
>> 
>>>> Symlinks can be used as part of one solution. For example 
>>>> on OS "foo" after installing it :
>>>> - Mount the big drive on, say, /data (and update fstab 
>>>> accordingly)
>>>> - move /home to /data/foo
>>>> - create a symlink /home pointing to /data/foo
>>>
>>> where do I have to put this symlink ? Directly in /
>>> or in /home ?
>> 
>> "/home" is an absolute pathname and means that the object 
>> "home" is directly in /. /home as a directory does not exist 
>> any more after it as been moved/renamed as /data/foo, so you 
>> would not be able to put anything in /home.
>
> okay, I understand the difference, but then where shoul I 
> have to put the symlink to "external home" ? Directly under 
> root (/) where the former /home was ?
> If I did so, the system would see and treat the symlink 
> exactly as the original home ?

You know what-- You claim to have difficulty reading man pages, but
apparently have difficulty reading anything You  have been told numerous
times that where you put a home directory does not matter as long as you
change the last field in /etc/passwd to list the location of the home
directory for each person. Or, if editing /etc/passwd fills you with
dread   then make sure the location listed in /etc/passwd is a soft link
to the actual location of the users home directory

>
>> 
>>>> This solution has a disadvantage : all OSes can see all 
>>>> home directories of all other OSes. Some users on 
>>>> different OSes will probably have the same numerical User 
>>>> ID (many distributions use UID=1000 for the first user). 
>>>> A user in any OS can access the home directory of any 
>>>> other user which has the same UID in any other OS.
>>>
>>> this would be highly appreciated as my need is right to 
>>> SHARE all data among distros. The various users are just 
>>> myself, nobody else.
>>> I would have had to take care to sync the UID and GID to 
>>> the same values manually anyway (if I got what Carlos 
>>> suggested).
>>> The only different among the users is they must have their 
>>> config files, nothing else
>> 
>> Why then don't you store the data files in a common location 
>> outside home directories 
>
> this is just done. In the new drive, /media/MOMES is a 
> folder named "My" when I have moved all of the documents 
> managed manually by myself.
>
> But they are not the problem, the problem are the files that 
> installed sw (or even some sw itself) have placed under 
> "DOT" folders, which those SW expect to find in their 
> original place. If the symlink trick them then all fine
>
> Can you give me an example of symlink synthax
>
>> and leave the home directories in 
>> their respective root filesystems, as already suggested by 
>> others ? 
>
> mmm, seems safer to me on need to reinstall the system. I 
> would non create any new /home on reinstall, just recreate 
> the symlink ... or is it wrong ?
>
>> That would avoid scattering data files across all 
>> home directories.
>> 
>>> I'm reading some man for usermode, saying the user to be 
>>> relocated must not be login and, more over, none of its 
>>> files opened (this last is obscure to me)
>> 
>> A file is opened when it is currently used by any local 
>> process. The current working directory counts as an opened 
>> file. Files in a user home directory may be opened even if 
>> the user is not logged in,
>
> so how to close those files to enable moving ?
>
>>  for instance if a web server with 
>> user home pages enabled is running and the user has set a 
>> home page.
>
>

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Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-13 20:47 +0200
  Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-13 17:35 -0400
    Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-14 00:01 +0200
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-13 19:28 -0400
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-13 19:23 -0500
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-14 10:29 +0200
    Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2019-06-14 02:13 +0200
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-13 23:45 -0400
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-06-14 07:34 -0400
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-14 09:59 -0400
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:08 +0200
              Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-06-15 11:58 -0400
                Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 23:10 +0200
  Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-13 18:49 -0500
  Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 07:05 +0200
    Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-14 04:17 -0400
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-14 17:41 +0200
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-14 15:58 +0000
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 18:04 +0200
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 17:58 +0200
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-14 18:36 +0200
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-14 12:01 -0500
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 19:18 +0200
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-14 20:11 +0200
              Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 21:44 +0200
              Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-18 12:50 +0200
                Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-18 21:50 +0200
                Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-19 13:10 +0200
                Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-19 21:57 +0200
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-14 19:22 +0200
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-14 20:02 +0200
    Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-14 17:36 +0200
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-14 10:50 -0500
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-14 15:55 +0000
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-14 22:29 +0200
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-14 20:52 +0000
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-15 02:07 +0200
              Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-15 01:30 +0000
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-15 08:59 +0200
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-17 19:43 +0200
  Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-06-15 19:47 +0200
    Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-17 02:05 +0200
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-16 20:23 -0500
      Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-06-18 13:52 +0200
        Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-18 18:36 +0200
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-18 12:04 -0500
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-18 21:37 +0000
          Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-06-20 23:31 +0200
            Re: Relocating many homes in subfolders of a dedicated internal HDD "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-21 10:25 +0200

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