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Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ?

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ?
Date 2019-06-17 22:50 +0200
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On 17/06/2019 17:06, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com>
> writes:
> 
>> Imvvvho, Hillary really messed up with that "server".
> 
> There are some opinions I would feel obliged to be
> humble about, but that isn't one of them.
> 

(This thread is already hopeless off-topic.)

/I/ would be humble about giving such an opinion - because I don't know 
enough about the circumstances.  I don't know, for example, whether the 
private server here was better or worse secured than the official one - 
I could easily imagine it being more secure, though that is unlikely to 
make using it the right course of action.  I don't know how common it is 
to use independent servers instead of the official ones for people high 
in the US administration - certainly Trump's family did exactly the same 
thing.  Perhaps it is common practice.  I don't know to what extent, if 
any, Clinton was actually involved in the use of the server or the 
choice of it - I would find it very believable to think that she had no 
more clue about the technical details than the average politician, and 
relied entirely on an IT staff member.

It is certainly clear that Trump scored a lot of points in the election 
campaign by focusing on Clinton's email server.  But it is far from 
clear, to me at least, that it was her fault (not just her 
responsibility), whether it was a real national security risk, or 
whether it was an unusual situation.  It is not even clear that it 
actually affected the election in any way - if it hadn't happened, I am 
sure Trump would have found something else to focus on instead.

There is a lot more that goes on in politics than the simplified 
versions shown in the media, and perhaps we /should/ be humble about 
expressing opinions on much of it.  On the other hand, that would spoil 
the fun of discussing politics.  Maybe these folks have got it right:

<https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-35524966/house-of-shame-parliament-brawls-around-the-world>

That seems a much more civilised way to settle political disagreements, 
rather than fixating on email servers...

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Ken Thompson ? Mehdi Amini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 19:35 +0430
  Re: Ken Thompson ? luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 08:23 -0700
    Re: Ken Thompson ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-13 17:23 +0000
    Re: Ken Thompson ? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-06-14 21:23 -0600
  Re: Ken Thompson ? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-06-13 08:29 -0700
    Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-13 23:56 -0700
  Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:49 -0700
    Re: Ken Thompson ? My nuts hurt <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 10:02 -0700
      Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 10:22 -0700
        Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-14 10:07 +0000
          Re: Ken Thompson ? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-06-14 21:18 -0600
            Re: Ken Thompson ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-06-15 10:52 +0000
              Re: Ken Thompson ? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-06-15 14:55 -0600
            [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-15 13:41 +0000
              Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 08:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-15 19:28 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 12:37 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-15 21:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 23:45 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-16 12:26 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-16 14:48 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-17 13:38 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-16 14:23 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-16 14:24 -0700
                Ricky, don't lose that number... (Was: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-17 02:14 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... (Was: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-16 23:20 -0700
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-17 13:47 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-17 15:36 -0700
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-17 23:07 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-20 01:35 -0700
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-06-18 14:19 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-06-18 19:34 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2019-06-18 16:25 -0400
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-18 21:09 +0000
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 03:51 -0700
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 13:14 +0200
                Re: Ricky, don't lose that number... (Was: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ?) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-06-17 02:08 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 02:08 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-16 02:20 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-06-17 08:06 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-17 22:50 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-17 14:40 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-17 15:46 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-06-18 06:17 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Ken Thompson ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-20 01:37 -0700
        Re: Ken Thompson ? luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 15:07 -0700
  Re: Ken Thompson ? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-13 13:20 -0700
    Re: Ken Thompson ? Mehdi Amini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 18:49 +0430
    Re: Ken Thompson ? Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 18:41 -0700
  Re: Ken Thompson ? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-06-14 21:16 -0600
    Re: Ken Thompson ? Mehdi Amini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 19:49 +0430
    Re: Ken Thompson ? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-15 17:56 +0200
      Re: Ken Thompson ? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2019-06-15 21:49 +0000
        Re: Ken Thompson ? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-06-16 19:22 -0600
      Re: Ken Thompson ? Mehdi Amini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 23:13 +0430

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