Re: python to deprecate NNTP

From	not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: python to deprecate NNTP
Date	2019-05-25 03:23 +0000
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<qcacf0$114l$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote:
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is there to 'maintain' when the protocol it speaks (NNTP) itself 
>>> is not changing?
>> 
>> Because the people in charge of Python keep changing it, addding new
>> features, but also deprecating old ones. Or changes like 'print'
>> becoming a function rather than a statement. Then there are the
>> strings changing from characters to unicode characters.
> 
> So, the 'maintence' is not because of the NNTP module, it is self 
> imposed because they (those in charge) can't leave well enough alone 
> (or at least provide proper backwards compatibility so old stuff just 
> keeps working without needing an update).

Yep, hence when looking for Python scripts you find the old "works
with Python version x, and version y, maybe version z". Or abandoned
scripts written for "Python" which just mysteriously refuse to work.

So while it may make it easier for the Python developers to implement
new ideas, the burden of the changes is either passed onto script
writers (who now have to work out ways to maintain backwards
compatibility in their own code), or onto script users who are going
to end up keeping multiple versions of Python installed if they want
to use scripts from multiple outside sources (this burden may then be
passed on to distibution package maintainers).

But that's hardly uncommon - as a look at the tangle of Debian
packages available for such software "dependencies" shows.

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python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 17:44 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-23 21:49 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-23 22:59 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 01:51 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 22:24 -0400
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-05-24 07:52 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:06 +0100
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-24 13:25 +0100
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 14:54 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-25 23:41 +1000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-25 16:35 +0000
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-26 13:38 -0400
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-26 23:21 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-27 11:06 +0000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-25 14:43 -0300
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 20:37 -0400
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 15:00 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-24 17:31 -0300
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-25 07:38 +0000
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-26 01:36 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:05 +0100
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 17:51 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-24 14:29 +1000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 15:01 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 20:25 +0000
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 21:32 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-25 03:23 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-25 20:32 +0000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-05-25 18:08 -0400
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-25 21:27 -0300
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-27 21:12 -0400
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-28 03:06 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-28 08:16 +0100
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-28 18:26 +0100
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-28 14:46 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP "polk" <polka@dot.dot> - 2019-05-25 15:14 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-26 01:37 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-26 05:45 +0000
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Robert Munyer <robertm@not-for-mail.invalid> - 2019-06-07 23:03 +0000

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