Re: python to deprecate NNTP

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: python to deprecate NNTP
Date	2019-05-24 14:54 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2019-05-23, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> Or just compile the old Python code on newer distributions and have
>> it installed as something like "python-old" which is used instead
>> of "python" only for the NNTP script. A VM seems way overkill to me.
> 
> I'm still going to check out tcl, but it now appears I will be able to
> continue using Python 2.7 for quite some time more, so that's better
> than nothing and keeps me in business for little extra effort.

Alternatives where one does not have to rewrite existing, working, 
scripts are generally better.  FWIW, the NNTP library in Tcllib is 
reasonably nice to use, I've created several different little Tcl 
scripts for Usenet stuff along the way using it.

> Other things that have annoyed:
> 
> * LiLO, which worked perfectly well, gets deprecated for a system that
>  seems ridiculously complex to me

This one, however, is not exactly LILO's fault [1].  The hardware 
makers (largely at MS's insistence) moved away from legacy BIOS into 
the new fancy EFI system.

Classic LILO expects legacy BIOS calls to handle several stages of its 
bootstrapping, so it just no longer works with EFI only hardware.

But, there is eLILO for EFI hardware: 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/elilo/

[1] I'm excluding here those distros that choose to go grub even though 
lilo would have still worked here, as that was by choice of the distro, 
not because the hardware changes forced the change.

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python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 17:44 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-23 21:49 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-23 22:59 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 01:51 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 22:24 -0400
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-05-24 07:52 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:06 +0100
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-24 13:25 +0100
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 14:54 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-25 23:41 +1000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-25 16:35 +0000
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-26 13:38 -0400
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-26 23:21 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-27 11:06 +0000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-25 14:43 -0300
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 20:37 -0400
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 15:00 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-24 17:31 -0300
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-25 07:38 +0000
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-26 01:36 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2019-05-29 18:05 +0100
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-23 17:51 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-05-24 14:29 +1000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 15:01 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 20:25 +0000
        Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-24 21:32 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-25 03:23 +0000
          Re: python to deprecate NNTP Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-25 20:32 +0000
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-05-25 18:08 -0400
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-25 21:27 -0300
            Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-27 21:12 -0400
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-28 03:06 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-28 08:16 +0100
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: python to deprecate NNTP Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-05-28 18:26 +0100
              Re: python to deprecate NNTP kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-28 14:46 -0400
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP "polk" <polka@dot.dot> - 2019-05-25 15:14 +0000
    Re: python to deprecate NNTP RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-26 01:37 +0000
      Re: python to deprecate NNTP Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-05-26 05:45 +0000
  Re: python to deprecate NNTP Robert Munyer <robertm@not-for-mail.invalid> - 2019-06-07 23:03 +0000

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