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Re: Kernel version for stretch

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On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 07:34:15AM +0000, Niels Thykier wrote:

> Pulling in d-i on this, since they might be affected by this.
[...]
> > Based on the current 9 week upstream release cycle, the longterm branch
> > for 2017 will presumably be based on Linux 4.10, released at the end of
> > week 3 (22nd January 2017).  That's well after the planned stretch
> > freeze date so I don't see how it can be included.
[...]
> @Kernel+d-i - What is your take on the following:
[...]
>  * If we were to stick with 4.4, what we will be missing out on?

>From the ARM architecture viewpoint I would very much like to see
a stretch release with kernel 4.10 instead of kernel 4.4.  In
particular regarding arm64 there is currently a lot of work done
to add proper mainline support for affordable hardware (Pine64,
Olimex A64-Olinuxino, boards from the 96boards initiative) that
we would miss if we release with kernel 4.4.

On armhf we would also miss quite a bit of important hardware
support improvements if we release with kernel 4.4 (in particular
KMS display driver and audio support for a large number of armhf
boards that we support only headless in jessie; patches are
currently in the review phase and will hopefully go into kernel
4.6/4.7).

Another issue with kernel 4.4 is that at the release time of
stretch a large part of the long-term support period for 4.4 will
already be over, so the maintainance effort for the Debian kernel
maintainers will be higher than with kernel 4.10.

Regards,
Karsten
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Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-01-27 19:30 +0100
  Re: Kernel version for stretch Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2016-01-28 20:10 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-01-28 21:20 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2016-01-30 15:40 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2016-02-07 02:00 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch maximilian attems <maks@stro.at> - 2016-01-29 00:10 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2016-01-30 15:40 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch maximilian attems <maks@stro.at> - 2016-01-30 18:40 +0100
  Re: Kernel version for stretch Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2016-02-02 08:50 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2016-02-02 14:30 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org> - 2016-02-03 08:40 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2016-02-03 19:40 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> - 2016-02-04 04:40 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org> - 2016-02-03 08:30 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2016-02-04 10:20 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2016-02-04 17:50 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> - 2016-02-05 01:20 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> - 2016-02-05 10:30 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-02-05 04:10 +0100
      Re: Kernel version for stretch Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2016-02-05 19:50 +0100
        Re: Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-02-14 17:00 +0100
          Re: Kernel version for stretch Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> - 2016-02-14 21:50 +0100
            Re: Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-02-15 13:20 +0100
    Re: Kernel version for stretch Mehdi Dogguy <mehdi@dogguy.org> - 2016-02-15 09:50 +0100
  [Decision] Kernel version for stretch Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2016-02-24 22:50 +0100
    Re: [Decision] Kernel version for stretch Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2016-03-02 12:30 +0100

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