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Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

From Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now
Date 2016-01-15 17:10 +0100
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On 01/15/2016 04:35 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> Zlatan Todoric:
>> Why just not open source it an be done with it.
> 
> Because they need to support old machines that require an unchanged kernel.
> 
> 
> Zlatan Todoric:
>> It currently needs closed source firmware to run 3D.
> 
> Not firmware, but microcode. It is just how the instruction set is
> handled in the processor, and it is kept confidential because that would
> reveal the hardware design that otherwise would be hard wired.
> 
> Even when it would be better libre it cannot restrict how you use your
> computer, be infected by malware, or have a back-door.
> 
> 

So you started this thread with that subject and now you are defending
them why they have closed source things that we need if we want to
properly use their hardware? And I don't get the last sentence but ok.

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Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:20 +0100
  Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 22:50 +0100
  Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2016-01-14 23:30 +0100
    Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 02:10 +0100
    Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Michael Haney <thezorch@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 02:50 +0100
      Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2016-01-15 12:10 +0100
        Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 16:40 +0100
          Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2016-01-15 17:10 +0100
            Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 17:20 +0100
              Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 13:50 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:00 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:10 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 14:40 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:40 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:00 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Alberto Salvia Novella <es20490446e@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 17:40 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 19:00 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-01-22 23:20 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 01:30 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 02:20 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-01-23 11:20 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-01-24 05:40 +0100
                Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-01-24 12:30 +0100
    Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 11:00 +0100
      Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 11:40 +0100
      Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2016-01-15 12:10 +0100
    Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-01-15 15:10 +0100
      Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2016-01-15 15:50 +0100
  Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2016-01-15 10:00 +0100

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