Re: no response from listmaster

From	Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: no response from listmaster
Date	2015-12-14 03:50 +0100
Message-ID	<qFrn3-8oD-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
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On 2015-12-13 20:01:35 GMT, Brian <ad44 <at> cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +0000, Steve Kleene wrote:
>
> > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > > My address (skdeb <at> syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
> > > > debian-user mailing list.  I understand why.  I took the address
down for a
> > > > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if
anyone
> > > > cares).  Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they
> > > > unsubscribed me.  A note from listmaster <at> lists.debian.org on
Dec 8 notified
> > > > me of this and said, "You are welcome to contact us".  I wrote to that
> > > > address twice (Dec 8 and 9).  The mails were not returned to me; I have
> > > > received no response; and I'm still unsubscribed.
> > > >
> > > > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might
actually
> > > > respond?  Thanks.
> >
> > On Sun Dec 13 12:29:31 2015, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz <at> gmail.com> replied:
> >
> > > Why not just resubscribe - much simpler.
> >
> > Thanks, but that's a whole can of worms I had hoped (in vain) not to reopen.
> > Last month I did a thread ("problem e-mailing debian groups") on that
and was
> > unable to find a solution.  My e-mails to debian-user <at>
lists.debian.org and
> > debian-admin <at> lists.debian.org DO bounce, apparently because my employer
> > mishandles sender callback verification.  (Having said that, I don't
> > understand why no one but lists.debian.org bounces my e-mails.)  My employer
> > only wants to support Microsoft Outlook or Exchange and wishes I didn't
run a
> > mail server at all.  So I'm on my own.
>
> Would you please be clearer here as to your setup.
>
> You are running a mail server anad are using it to send mail.
>
> Does this mail
>
> a) go through one of your employer's mail servers
>
> or
>
> b) do you send mails directly ?

I am running mailto/sendmail from the command line, configured locally by
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf.  This file includes:

  DSsmtp.uc.edu

This sets my employer's server smtp.uc.edu as SMART_HOST.  I did not route
through that server until 2006.  At that point an organization across the
street began refusing emails because my IP was seen as dynamic.  I had to
route through smtp.uc.edu to get around that.  I haven't tried lately to go
back to the pre-2006 system.  I do have one machine with a fixed IP.  On my
desk machine I masquerade to the fixed IP, but apparently e-mails from the
desk machine were detected as dynamic IP before the header was even checked.

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: no response from listmaster Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> - 2015-12-14 03:50 +0100
  Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 04:50 +0100
  Re: no response from listmaster Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2015-12-14 05:00 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-14 10:40 +0100
      Re: no response from listmaster Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2015-12-14 15:10 +0100
        Re: no response from listmaster tomas@tuxteam.de - 2015-12-14 15:30 +0100
          Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 16:10 +0100
            Re: no response from listmaster Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 16:30 +0100
            Re: no response from listmaster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-15 09:00 +0100
              Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 12:10 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-15 12:30 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 12:40 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 12:40 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster German <gentgerman@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 12:50 +0100
              Re: no response from listmaster John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-15 15:10 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2015-12-14 15:30 +0100
      Re: no response from listmaster Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2015-12-14 15:50 +0100
        Re: no response from listmaster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-15 09:00 +0100
          Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 12:10 +0100
            Re: no response from listmaster Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2015-12-15 17:50 +0100
              Re: no response from listmaster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-12-15 20:40 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 00:20 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lee Fuller <me@leefuller.io> - 2015-12-23 20:10 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> - 2015-12-23 21:50 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lee <me@leefuller.io> - 2015-12-23 22:10 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2015-12-24 02:30 +0100
                Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 00:20 +0100
        Re: no response from listmaster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2015-12-15 10:20 +0100
  Re: no response from listmaster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-12-14 11:10 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster Lee Fuller <leefuller23@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 15:10 +0100
      Re: no response from listmaster Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2015-12-14 15:40 +0100
        Re: no response from listmaster Lee Fuller <leefuller23@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 17:50 +0100
  Re: no response from listmaster [SOLVED] Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> - 2015-12-14 16:30 +0100

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