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"Jim D"  wrote in message news:2019041613085426341-Not@ThisAddresscom...

> She told me yesterday she's never worked in a band that used monitors 
> before the grage band I " found " her in.  I ask, how could you hear 
> yourself then ?   Lot's of rambling nonsense followed.  I believe the 
> answer is that she sang REALLY LOUD.  And she can't seem to back off that 
> style.

Vocal folds have a lot in common with ears - they can only take so much 
abuse before they start failing.
Overly Loud singing can damage vocal folds as surely as Overly Loud sound 
levels can damage hearing.

> In our case, she'll either learn to sing at less than full throated 
> levels, or she'll never have enough stage level.

Working the mic is the best way.

> Easy to fit. If she want's massive stage level, simple to the point of 
> absurdity, use the in ears, turn them up to whatever she wants.  She won't 
> do that. No not now, no not ever.

If I could tolerate those things, I'd have the levels exactly where it 
sounded best to me.

> Next solution, less satisfactory, use a floor wedge. Ah, but then how to 
> make one single 15 and a horn sound as loud as a full up rock band ? Not 
> easy, as she's learning. They will blow up first.

She should work the wedge, and the mic, remaining in optimum proximity to 
both.

> or actively doesn't WANT to understand.

There are far too many who don't want to understand or even learn anything - 
they *fear* that it might make them Responsible, and they're too Lazy and 
Cowardly for that!

> Results ?   What would that be ?

Gigs of course, and more of them, and better paying, and better venues, and 
better audiences, to name a few.

> The only thing she wants is for us to crank the FOH until we get fired.

Does she somehow use the FOH system for a monitor system? If not, why should 
she care about anything other than the monitor system?

> I say that because, we spent a year blowing cabs up and that wasn't loud 
> enough.

That gets ridiculously expensive because it's expensively ridiculous!

> It's only now that we've lost some regular gigs and are in the process of 
> losing more that's she's really digging her heels in on correcting this.

So she really does want gigs after all...even to the point of correcting a 
problem that never should have been there in the first place?

> Is she worth the aggrivation ?

> No.

> Absolutely not.

Then it's straighten-up-and-fly-right time ;)

> But getting out of several year long contracts isn't just snap your finger 
> easy.  So I'm trying to help her before the inevitable blow up happens.

But getting out isn't quite the same as being thrown out, unless the 
contract actually has some requirements about sound levels.

> I hit the threshold of pain with this band two summers back at an outdoor 
> gig. Seriously thought I'd burst an eardrum.  Really.

I've felt it a few times and that's a few times too many, so I always keep 
earplugs with me. Like anything stuck into my ears, I can't stand them 
either but when the  alternative is deafness, that's not a choice for me so 
in they go, and when the gig is over, I go, never to return.

> Since then, it's been a never ending struggle to try and back the levels 
> down.  I'll lose in the end.  Well, not totally. I'll lose the battle bt 
> win the war. The band will be gone, but I'll still have some of hearing 
> left.

So the management isn't complaining, the audience isn't complaining, only 
she is complaining and doesn't mind folding up the band, even it's doing 
better and better all the time, and return to the  SEWER?
Could it possibly be a bluff?

> They want her to fail.   As obvious as anything in the world could ever 
> be.

JimD

Of course, they blew it so they want her to do the same thing. As the old 
saying goes ;"With 'friends' like that......etc." ;)

Ouisie 

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a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-03-31 03:25 -0400
  Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-03-31 22:26 -0400
    Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-01 12:58 -0500
      Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-03 09:53 -0400
        Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-03 15:24 -0500
          Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-05 11:12 -0400
            Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-08 13:29 -0500
              Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-10 12:06 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-14 16:51 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-16 13:08 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-16 15:21 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-18 11:55 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-20 19:00 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-21 10:09 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-21 14:45 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-22 14:58 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-22 16:45 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-04-25 09:43 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-04-27 20:45 -0500
                Re: a most bizarre conversation Jim D <Not@ThisAddress.com> - 2019-05-13 10:52 -0400
                Re: a most bizarre conversation "Ouisie" <someone@anywheret.net> - 2019-05-13 18:38 -0500

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