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| Subject | Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.checkmate |
| References | (2 earlier) <0ZdWC.286418$Hv4.283570@fx39.iad> <rY2dnfJ4nPcQ8rTGnZ2dnUU7-WXNnZ2d@giganews.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.19--6.14pm.Seattle.2018> <fotvi6FrrctU1@mid.individual.net> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.19--11.35pm.Seattle.2018> |
| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
| Message-ID | <q6vWC.463586$nq5.450359@fx36.iad> (permalink) |
| Date | 2018-06-20 12:17 -0400 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 6/20/2018 2:35 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Quoting Anton Zeilinger ( modified by me, for clarity ): > > We implicitly assume " the freedom of the experimentalist " > [ a.k.a. " the uncaused cause " ]... otherwise, > nature determines what our questions are, obscuring our view. > > Yeah, our vision isn't perfect... so what ? > Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? > > Perfection was never the goal; > instead, we prefer the LeastBad "option", > and we can't change what we prefer. > > We're " natural robots ", programmed by nature > to exploit our nitch, to consume, like the sun, or a car. > > At the start, there was no entropy, just infinite eXergy/density. > [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ] > And, because " Time == Entropy ", there was no time on the clock then. > > Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy; > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy > but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual exergy. > Rolf this is the biggest fucking fantasy I've ever heard! NONE of it agrees with reality. You are STILL an idiot.
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Does this sound familiar ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 04:48 -0700
Re: Does this sound familiar ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 09:19 -0500
Karl Marx lived it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 08:08 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 10:23 -0500
Marx lied. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 08:53 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 08:59 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:04 -0500
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 09:11 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:24 -0500
Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-19 11:55 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 17:06 -0400
Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-20 07:50 -0500
Re: Marx lied. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-21 03:11 +0000
Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 11:36 -0700
Re: Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 17:33 -0400
It's my fault. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 15:20 -0700
Re: It's my fault. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 15:23 -0700
Re: It's my fault. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-21 23:29 +0100
Re: It's my fault. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 15:38 -0700
Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 16:05 -0700
Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 00:25 +0100
The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 22:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:46 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:24 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:39 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:55 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:01 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:15 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:18 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:31 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:23 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:13 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:25 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:30 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:38 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:39 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 18:35 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 21:01 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:33 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-23 00:04 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 17:46 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-23 09:10 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 03:22 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-23 11:31 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 05:16 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-23 13:26 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:41 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 05:47 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:57 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-23 18:49 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 10:58 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 06:20 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-25 08:22 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:04 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:01 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2018-06-27 07:13 -0500
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 06:17 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:10 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 08:21 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:43 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:48 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 03:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 05:38 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-23 10:10 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:08 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 05:18 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-24 22:27 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:31 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:31 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-24 23:56 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 16:59 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 00:12 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:17 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:24 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:30 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:42 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:22 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 01:01 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:07 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 01:34 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:09 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:22 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:21 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 20:31 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 00:58 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:43 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-24 20:30 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-25 08:11 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:59 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 18:02 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:46 -0700
Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 16:26 -0700
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:24 -0400
Re: It's my fault. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 20:39 -0700
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:23 -0400
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:54 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:04 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:31 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0500
Re: Marx lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 17:34 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 18:55 -0700
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:52 -0400
Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:36 -0700
Re: Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 20:07 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:46 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0500
SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 18:14 -0700
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-20 03:21 +0000
Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 23:35 -0700
Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:17 -0400
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:14 -0400
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 04:04 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 14:15 -0700
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:17 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 15:29 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 15:43 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:00 -0500
Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:28 -0700
Re: Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:34 -0500
When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-20 01:40 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:58 -0400
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:09 -0500
Re: Does this sound familiar ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:26 -0400
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