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Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway.

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In comp.misc Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
> In comp.misc, whodunit  <whodunit@notme.org> wrote:
>> "(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com> wrote in
>> news:q45eo5$4hi$2@neodomea5yrhcabc.onion: 
>> > 2019 may finally be the year for 'The Search Engine That Doesn't Track
>> > You' 
>> > <https://medium.com/s/story/nothing-can-stop-google-duckduckgo-is-tryin
>> > g-anyway-718eb7391423> 
> 
> Medium: the text site that likes to track your mouse movements for some
> reason. Definitely not high on my list of privacy friendly places to
> find content. Fortunately it does work well in lynx.

Ah, oh well it works well in Dillo too. Though the images didn't need
to be that big.

>> > Until 2011, Weinberg was DuckDuckGo's sole full-time employee. That
>> > year, he pushed to expand the company. He bought a billboard in
>> > Google's backyard of San Francisco that proudly proclaimed, "Google
>> > tracks you. We don't."
> 
> I don't remember when I started using DuckDuckGo. My personal archive
> of netnews posts shows 2011 was the first year I mentioned it in a post.
> 
>> > Using DuckDuckGo can feel like relearning to walk after you've spent a
>> > decade flying. On Google, a search for, say, "vape shop" yields a map
>> > of vape shops in my area. On DuckDuckGo, that same search returns a
>> > list of online vaporizer retailers. The difference, of course, is the
>> > data: Google knows that I'm in Durham, North Carolina. As far as
>> > DuckDuckGo is concerned, I may as well be on the moon. 
> 
> Yeah, sure. But I've had DDG as default search engine for at least four
> years now and gotten used to typing "$item store $city $state". So when
> I accidently use Google it feels kinda creepy, not like "flying".

I've got no idea when I switched to it from Google either, but I don't
remember Google ever knowing where I was. If a site tries to work it
out from my IP address it is out by at least a few hundred kilometers
(depending on which capital city it guesses that I'm in) - that only
makes results less useful. Maybe they weren't doing that in Australia
back when I was using it, or maybe I found a way to disable it because
it kept giving me results from Sydney. In any case I've never known
anything other than "$item store $city $state $country" (the last one
is permanently set as a URL parameter in Dillo (I don't think I found
a way to do that in Firefox with its silly new "search engines as
extensions" system), but it still pays to hammer it in).

Hell, most local stores either don't have websites or their website
is just a logo with some outdated information from when some
"websites4U" operation built it for them, and an Email address / 
contact form that nobody ever reads. But I'm getting off-topic.

>> duckduck is a flawed search engine. Slow as hell, often does not even 
>> load. How you know they are not tracking you?? Google is EVIL, only a 
>> matter of time before TRUMP goes after all the corrupt companies.
> 
> I have never had DDG fail to load, and I doubt you've tried the wifi in
> Hell.

Google does seem to be unreasonably faster to load than any other
site on many internet connections. Presumably mainly due to specific
handling by the ISP. They're probably also a lot more resilient
against DDOS attacks (I think I once watched an interview where a
Google employee said that their servers were powerful enough to
"pretty much absorb anything" in that regard).

I find DDG fast enough though, and it's even faster using the
"lite" version in Dillo. I may remember it being down on a couple
of occasions in the past, but it's hardly "often". It's a lot more
reliable than my home internet connection is, though that's not
saying much.

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Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. "(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com> - 2019-02-15 04:21 +0000
  Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. whodunit <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-08 20:39 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-03-08 21:18 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-10 22:48 -0400
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-03-08 21:32 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-03-09 02:15 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-03-09 09:14 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-09 09:41 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-03-13 10:17 -0400
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2019-03-13 16:29 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-08 21:38 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-08 23:51 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. nunnurbiz <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-12 02:08 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-12 21:53 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. nunnurbiz <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-13 19:59 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-13 20:17 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-13 22:12 +0000
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-14 20:36 +0000
                Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-15 08:51 -0400
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-03-14 21:23 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. carson@aslas.com - 2019-03-09 02:32 -0600
  Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. NUNURBIZ <NUNURBIZ@YAHOO.COM> - 2019-04-19 02:00 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-19 10:53 +0000

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