Re: Truthiness isn't that important.

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.checkmate
Subject	Re: Truthiness isn't that important.
Date	2019-02-18 21:32 +0000
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References	<75066954-ae16-4613-8da2-0a7537168a62@googlegroups.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--1.11pm.Seattle.2019>

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<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.> wrote:
>> There has NEVER been an observation that contradicts a prediction of
>> Einstein's Special and General Theories of Relativity. 
>> The theories remain fruitful tools of physics.
>> 
>> Oh, and guess what -- the same can be said of the quantum mechanics. 
> 
> Yet they contradict each other.

Not really, no. 

GR is a continuum theory and only applies in a domain where such a
treatment is reasonable to assume — that is, in macroscopic domains. 

QM is a field theory that assumes a static and passive spacetime background
and only applies in a domain where such treatment is reasonable to assume —
that is, in small regions with weak gravity. 

The only way where one might get a feeling of contradiction is to try to
extend the tenets of either theory outside the domain in which it applies.
In other words, by ignoring boundaries. 

Which is what you allude to next. 

> 
> The best you can do is:
> 
>   - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
>   - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> 
> For example, the notion of "mass" ( rest mass ) is useful.
> The notion doesn't have to be entirely accurate ( nothing is at rest ),
> it just has to be _ useful.   Truthiness isn't that important.
> 
> Most people only love, comic book, sci-fi "physics";
> they've no use for the genuine article, real physics.
> 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 09:23 -0800
  Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 13:21 -0500
    Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 19:03 +0000
    Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 18:11 -0800
      Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-18 22:51 -0600
        Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:03 -0500
          Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-19 10:16 -0600
            Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 16:10 -0500
              Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-19 16:33 -0600
          Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-02-19 14:21 -0800
  Truthiness isn't that important. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-18 13:11 -0800
    Re: Truthiness isn't that important. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-18 16:15 -0500
      Re: Truthiness isn't that important. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 14:16 -0700
        Re: Truthiness isn't that important. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2019-02-18 22:28 +0000
          Re: Truthiness isn't that important. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 15:42 -0700
            Re: Truthiness isn't that important. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2019-02-18 23:00 +0000
              Re: Truthiness isn't that important. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 16:46 -0700
          Re: Truthiness isn't that important. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-02-18 20:23 -0800
    Re: Truthiness isn't that important. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 21:32 +0000
      Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-18 17:23 -0800
        Re: Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 22:32 -0500
        Re: Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-19 03:50 +0000
        Re: Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 14:54 +0000
    Re: Truthiness isn't that important. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 09:56 -0800
  Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2019-02-19 00:25 -0800
  Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2019-02-22 06:03 -0800
    Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2019-02-22 06:06 -0800
    Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2019-02-22 06:15 -0800
      Re: Comment of Einstein's Theory of Relativity Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2019-02-23 04:40 -0800

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