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Re: [Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace

From not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: [Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace
Date 2019-02-17 22:05 +0000
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J <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>  Surveillance marketing can not thrive in Gopherspace.
> 
> As much as I like gopher I must say that you would still need an IP
> anonimizer that would change the IP addres every minute, ideally once
> per document request.
>
> Eliminating cookies and browser profiles is not enough.  The analytic
> tools (from Google and others) are now clever enough to know who you
> are just by looking at the IP from which you are accessing the
> internet.

At least without cookies and scripts that makes Gopher fully usable
without tracking. Of course it's perfectly possible to make a
website without all of that as well, Gopher just forces you into it.

> When you begin with a new IP and you visit a pair of Youtube
> channels with few viewers, the anonimity is lost.  At that point they
> have enough information to guess who is on that IP address.  So the
> best is a different IP address for each document request.
> 
> With 56kbps modems, just hanging up and dialing again you got a
> different IP.  Most ISPs nowadays, when you reset the DSL modem,
> continue giving you the same IP again and again.

I use mobile broadband and get a new IP address every time the modem
is reset or automatically disconnects after a short while of
inactivity - handy when a website decides to block my IP for some
reason. That said, my particular ISP/telco does hand out rather
distinctive IP addresses (1.*), which combined with User-Agent fields
saying "Dillo/[version]" probably make my browsing fairly distinctive
to any non-automated tracking (certainly I can spot myself in logs).
I choose to keep the unusual User-Agent because I hope that web
developers might just spot it and say: "hey look someone's trying to
use this web browser that our site works really badly with, let's try
to improve compatibility with it". Yeah I know, dream on.

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[Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-02-16 17:27 +0000
  Re: [Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace J <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-02-16 23:46 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-02-17 08:49 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] We must revive Gopherspace not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-02-17 22:05 +0000

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