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On 1/30/2019 5:56 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:09:55 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd
>>>>> “Better to be COMPLETELY uneducated in a subject, completely clueless about
>>>>> the language used for the subject, and then making up word-salad babble
>>>>> where you don’t even know the meanings of the words you’re using, than to
>>>>> be a sheep. Right, John? ”
>>>>
>>>>> It’s the sheep that refuse to learn new things, in my experience. Are you
>>>>> finally admitting that you’re a sheep? Good first step.
>>>>
>>>> I’m happy to learn new things that come from people who know something. New
>>>> things that come from someone who is completely uneducated in a subject and
>>>> does not even understand the language of the subject is a .... Complete.
>>>> Waste. Of. Time.
>>>
>>> Complete? Odd, why is it then you spend post-after-post chasing John's posts?
>>> Even a class in college is but a semester long. Away with these students.
>>
>> Mahipal, long time.
> 
> Long time, same woods.
> 
>> I comment on John’s posts, not to learn anything, but to encourage him to
>> change his ways. He has taken the path of dress-up-and-make-believe, which
>> is fine if done alone in a mirror or as part of a show where an audience
>> are paying for make-believe entertainment. John, however, wants to be taken
>> seriously. Much like a quack doctor without a license would like to be
>> taken seriously. Or someone posing as a movie director to get laid by
>> actresses.
> 
> Even if the movie director might be female. Actresses be/are beautiful.
> 
>> Or perhaps his thinking is that he’s too chickenshit afraid to try actually
>> learning something, and so he’s hoping that by posturing and saying
>> ridiculous things that he just makes up, then someone will actually try to
>> explain it at a level he can understand.
> 
> Or perhaps you both simply enjoy drawing attention on a daily basis?
> John's fixation on galaxies and atoms being similar but on different
> size scales is akin to that skit in movie Animal House. Where the stoned
> professor, high with the students, wows them with what's in our fingers.
> 
>> Or perhaps he really has deluded himself into thinking that it’s the
>> untainted, uneducated novices that come up with the brilliant ideas that
>> move the dial forward, even though that is not a historical reality,
>> because it makes him feel better about himself.
> 
> What's better, to delude one's self on one's own terms or to have
> others' delusions thrust upon you?
> 
> I'm a major fan of James Burke. He wrote/televised books/shows like
> "Connections" and "The Day The Universe Changed." He had/has this nice
> English accent. Hey, I've got to learn me English from somewhere someone...
> 
> Anyway, James recalls a incident of farmers finding weird rocks in their
> fields. Somehow, local astronomers became aware of these rocks. They
> asked the farmers from where did the rocks come? Farmers, being
> non-technical non-experts said that the rocks fell from the skies,
> stars, heavens. Something like that, for I can only paraphrase.
> 
> Moral, as history unfolded, after the astronomers mocked the farmers
> with "Sure they did. Sure they did." The rocks were later confirmed to
> be meteorites. Interesting story, situation, I thought to meself.


Odd is one of the family of mockers. "Everybody" knows that rocks do not 
simply fall out of the sky! That is utter nonsense and the only thing is 
to heap ridicule on the farmers and call them stupid. Tell them to read 
a science textbook to "prove" that rocks do not fall from the sky. The 
is the only educated and intellectual thing to do. AT least in Odd's 
fantasy world. Odd has no clue what science is. To him he's worked hard 
to memorize all the fantasies of the religion he's come to believe in 
and anyone who does not agree with his dogma must be stupid. It's simple 
as that. He knows nothing but thinks he knows it all.

You and I Looperji have actually seen things far more outside of 
establishment beliefs that actually really happened and we have enough 
of an open mind to actually understand that the world is actually full 
of miraculous events even if we do not yet understand them. That's the 
difference between you and I and Odd.

>> Regardless which one is on target with him, they’re all misbegotten notions
>> that should be pinched off like rotten fruit.
> 
> So Odd, the unnamed one, where do you find the time to make to(y)s?
> 
> There are two kinds of people, those who want to be remembered, and
> those that don't. Which one is you?

Some dance to remember and some dance to forget...

> So, my grandfather, father's side, was a carpenter. Like when I was
> three, years old, not in which grade, he'd make me wooden to(y)s.
> I can still see him chiseling away. Then I'd run off and play...

Even when I was a little kid I understood that wooden toys were 
primitive, stupid and worthless. When I had a toy I wanted it to actuall 
WORK and be effective, not some fake liberal bullshit fantasy. I 
remember ordering a "telescope encoder ring" When it came I learned a 
big lesson about advertising and how people with no integrity or 
practical knowledge will rob you with bullshit. Pretty much still going 
on... especially in Washington. Politicians even worse that makers of 
fake wooden toys.

>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>> Contents of some email I received: "WE WANT TO STAY CONNECTED"
>>> TheyTheThem2me: Why don't you open our emails anymore? Why O why?
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Why do I talk about myself? I think of all humans as some physics experiment.

whose experiment is the KEY question!

> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 

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