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Re: Who pays for Illegals?

From Peter Franks <none@none.com>
Newsgroups talk.politics.guns, misc.survivalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.economics, alt.philosophy, alt.politics.usa.constitution
Subject Re: Who pays for Illegals?
Date 2019-01-23 09:52 -0800
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On 1/23/2019 7:46 AM, jim wrote:
> Peter Franks wrote on 1/22/2019 9:41 AM:
>>>
>>> Most Americans pay sales tax on their retail purchases.
>>> They mostly have to pay  like 4%-8%. But consider all the sales
>>> that don't have to pay sales tax. There is no sales tax on
>>> the sale of stocks or bonds.  Lets imagine there was  a 1%
>>> federal sales tax on all money  transfers on Fedwire.
>>> How much money would that raise?
>>>   The answer is it would not only balance the federal budget,
>>> but it would pay off the federal debt in less than 5 years.
>>>
>>> The whole perception that taxes are skewed against the
>>> wealthy is a myth. There is no doubt the laws are designed
>>> to make it look like the wealthy pay higher percentages. but
>>> who is writing those laws?
>>
>> No, I said progressive, I meant progressive.
>>
>> https://www.cbo.gov/publication/51361
>>
> 
> 
> Yes those are the facts that are used to present a
> the  narrative that the wealthy pay more of their income
> in taxes.  I have said that before, but the CBO story is
> based on  facts that are artificially created by the tax laws.
> 
> The problem is those are not empirical facts.
> They are the facts as defined by the tax code and
> the tax code defined facts are carefully designed to
> support that narrative that the CBO is presenting.
> 
> I have given several examples of how that works that
> you ignore. You ignore it because the CBO tells you
> to ignore those facts and  you, absent any critical thought.
>   comply
> 
> Payroll tax is a tax on worker wages. That's a fact. If the
> employer replaces the worker with a robot, the employer
> no longer has to pay that tax to get the same work done.
> The tax only applies to work done by an American worker.
> The Congress has instructed the CBO through the tax
> code to ignore most of the payroll taxes when computing
> how much of the American worker's  wages are taxed. If
> the company outsources the work abroad it doesn't pay the tax.
> If it has a machine do the work it doesn't pay the tax. Its
> only when an American worker does the work that the payroll
> tax is paid, but less then half of what the govt collects is
> counted as paid on wages when the CBO calculates how
> much of a tax burden the American worker bears . And that
> distortion of reality that the tax code creates, impacts the lowest
> paid workers the most.
> 
> Here's another example: Just the other day I heard that
> the five wealthiest Americans currently have their wealth
> increasing by $2.5 billion per day. They are accumulating
> wealth at a rate of  more than a million dollars per second.
> How much do you suppose the CBO calculates that they
> pay in taxes on that $2.5 billion/day?
> Its very small because the amount that the tax code defines
> as income is very tiny or even non existent.
> In comparison when a low income worker acquires wealth by
> working, usually 100% of that amount is taxed.
> 
> So when the ratio of income to taxes is done for the
> wealthy, most of the income is excluded and most of
> the taxes are counted, but for the low income worker
>   the income is all counted and most of the taxes excluded.
> 
> None of this suggests that the CBO is doing anything
> sinister or that their calculations are not accurate. The
> CBO is just following the law as it currently exists

None of that, including what you heard the other day, refutes the 
evidence that this is a progressive tax system.

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Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 15:08 -0800
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 18:28 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-09 17:40 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-09 18:00 -0800
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:21 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 19:55 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:03 +0000
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:22 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 09:43 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-23 13:49 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 11:58 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-23 14:31 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 15:03 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-24 16:49 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 17:16 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-24 18:44 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-24 18:53 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 18:34 -0600
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:30 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-10 06:38 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:37 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-12 04:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:27 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:27 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:03 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:29 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-18 17:07 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 18:53 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:58 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 19:15 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 20:19 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com> - 2019-01-11 20:06 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:34 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:51 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-10 00:28 -0500
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:54 +0000
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:38 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:54 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:36 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:25 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:05 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:27 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-11 22:16 -0500
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 06:44 +0000
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 10:18 -0800
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-09 19:53 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:03 +0000
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-11 18:39 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 19:47 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 10:37 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 12:23 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:06 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-18 16:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 17:56 -0700
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2019-01-12 17:53 +0000
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 18:41 +0000
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-12 10:49 -0800
  Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 16:31 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 15:49 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 17:37 -0600
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 17:03 -0700
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:37 -0600
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-20 21:12 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 22:17 -0700
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 06:36 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-21 02:04 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 09:10 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-22 04:20 -0800
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingN0Sp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 07:42 -0600
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:49 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:38 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 18:03 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 11:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:23 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 15:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 06:23 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 12:54 -0600
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-21 10:23 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-20 16:43 -0700
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-20 18:21 -0600
    Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0800
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 09:28 -0700
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-22 11:06 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 14:07 -0700
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:51 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 19:29 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:46 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:33 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:54 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:39 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:48 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:44 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:23 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:04 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:36 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-25 00:55 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 19:22 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:00 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:29 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:48 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 19:32 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:30 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:47 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 21:50 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 22:49 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:01 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:43 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 12:35 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:47 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:23 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 17:24 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-24 17:02 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 07:48 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:03 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:26 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:32 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:27 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 07:59 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:06 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:29 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:45 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:13 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 13:48 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 12:52 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:54 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 16:06 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 10:53 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 09:02 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 14:25 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 16:20 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:04 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:18 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 16:34 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 14:40 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 21:34 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 20:08 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 06:14 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 08:01 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 11:15 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-26 10:19 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-26 13:49 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 07:44 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 12:11 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 11:25 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-27 14:12 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-27 19:49 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-28 08:27 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 07:40 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-28 08:21 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-27 09:38 -0500
                Who's taxes pay for Illegals? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-25 17:19 -0500
                Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 15:23 -0700
                Re: Who's taxes pay for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-26 21:04 +0000
                Who's taxes pay for Illegal aliens and incompetent Democrat run businesses? BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-26 14:06 -0500
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 15:22 -0600
      Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 09:46 -0600
        Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 09:52 -0800
          Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 14:38 -0600
            Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 13:48 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-23 21:55 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Ted <francisgerard@tutanota.com> - 2019-01-24 03:07 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 06:37 -0800
              Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-23 17:46 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-23 18:58 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 09:22 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 16:05 +0000
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 09:30 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:41 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 12:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 12:42 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:13 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:56 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:33 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 23:59 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 03:08 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-25 08:17 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 08:12 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:35 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-25 10:45 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 10:50 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 15:58 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 16:10 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-25 17:16 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 16:40 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-25 17:28 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:45 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:24 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:05 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:16 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:28 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:37 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:45 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 12:25 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 14:03 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 13:57 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-24 17:37 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-25 09:47 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:13 -0600
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Peter Franks <none@none.com> - 2019-01-24 10:34 -0800
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 11:46 -0700
                Re: Who pays for Illegals? jim <"sjedgingNOSp@m"@mwt.net> - 2019-01-24 12:50 -0600

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