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Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!

From sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!
Date 2019-01-12 17:53 -0800
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On 1/12/2019 3:59 PM, JF Mezei wrote:

> I think the idea would be to market a phone with a speed it can
> maintain, as opposed to marketing it with a super duper speed that gets
> throttled back and people complaining it isn't delivering on promised
> performance.

As long as customers are aware that the speed may be reduced I think 
it's okay. In the tear-downs, it was shown that the 8 and the X had 
hardware changes that allow even a degraded battery to supply sufficient 
current.

Throttling due to thermal issues is also a possibility, and you see that 
on a great many devices where the thermal solution is not sufficient to 
permit continuous operation at maximum processor load.

They can market the same phone with a lower processor speed that will 
not throttle and that will increase time between charging, they just 
have to make that a choice in the settings. Android finally introduced 
extensive battery optimization choices in Android 9 (Pie). You can also 
choose to do throttling at as high as 75% battery capacity or as low as 
5% battery capacity. iOS has always had a very different philosophy when 
it comes to users having the ability to do such extensive configuration 
of such settings because users shouldn't be bothered with all those 
choices, it should all happen automatically.

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Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-09 23:24 +0000
  Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 15:41 -0800
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-09 23:58 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 16:01 -0800
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 00:13 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 16:32 -0800
            Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 02:34 +0000
              Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 19:01 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 03:24 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 19:35 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 03:46 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 19:47 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 04:05 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 23:09 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 04:19 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 20:11 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 04:24 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 20:43 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-10 04:53 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 05:06 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-10 17:44 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 19:12 -0500
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 02:34 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 19:02 -0800
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:20 -0800
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 02:34 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 22:33 -0500
            Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 03:57 +0000
              Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 20:00 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 04:08 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 20:12 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 04:29 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-09 20:44 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 17:47 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-10 10:05 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 18:23 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-10 10:36 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-10 21:59 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 22:17 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2019-01-10 04:38 -0800
            Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 10:09 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-10 16:18 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 11:26 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-10 16:58 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-10 22:27 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-10 14:33 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-11 16:47 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! "dkol" <dkol@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 10:27 +1100
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-11 11:23 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-11 10:07 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 14:25 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-11 21:39 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-11 14:26 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-12 09:58 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2019-01-12 08:09 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-12 11:56 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2019-01-12 12:17 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-12 15:26 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2019-01-12 18:59 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-13 00:22 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-12 19:31 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2019-01-12 17:53 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-16 02:51 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-15 19:00 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-16 03:24 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-15 19:47 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2019-01-12 14:05 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-12 21:10 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-12 15:15 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! "dkol" <dkol@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:19 +1100
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-10 18:31 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-11 11:26 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-11 12:28 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-13 14:45 +0000
              Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 18:23 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 14:05 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 20:19 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 15:27 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 22:14 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-11 16:46 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-11 22:50 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-11 22:52 +0000
            Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 18:08 +0000
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-10 02:47 +0000
  Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-13 14:31 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2019-01-13 13:56 -0500
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 10:36 +1100
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-14 02:52 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2019-01-14 09:04 -0600
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-15 00:07 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-14 20:00 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-14 20:26 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-14 13:09 -0800
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-16 13:59 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-16 14:42 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-16 17:20 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-16 09:30 -0800
  Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:41 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-25 10:09 -0800
      Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 19:29 +0000
        Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-25 11:35 -0800
  Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-09 23:53 +0000
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