Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo

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Subject	Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo
Date	2018-12-12 00:09 -0600
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On 12/11/2018 7:02 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 11:24:33 AM UTC+11, James McGinn wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:18:36 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 11:14:29 AM UTC+11, James McGinn wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:41:32 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 9:29:47 AM UTC+11, James McGinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:56:20 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay let me rephrase, tell us why evaporated water in air at NTP must be multi molecular as you asserted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because that is what the best (non-anecdotal) evidence indicates.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is that? How can you say that evaporated water is multi-molecular?
>>>>
>>>> I just answered that question: "Because that is what the best (non-anecdotal) evidence indicates." How did you miss it?
>>>
>>> I missed it because the best (non-anecdotal) evidence was not presented, nor referred to any link.
>>
>> Read upthread.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>  
>>>>>> Why would we assume it is gaseous if all of the reliable evidence indicates otherwise?
>>>>>
>>>>> The reliable evidence as you have stated is the phase diagram of water. 
>>>>
>>>> Right.  It indicates liquid, not gas. Are you getting confused?
>>>
>>> Is that all you have got,
>>
>> This is all anybody has.
> 
> Okay. 
> The phase diagram shows that the state of water at say 20degC and 1 atm. p., is water.
> We all agree.
> Now take the phenomenon of evaporation.
> How does this happen?
> We know that things dry in wind, or heat. 
> Wind means high energy nitrogen or oxygen atoms hitting a surface. Making an impact.
> At the molecular level, one molecule of nitrogen or oxygen or even CO2 hits one molecule of water held as a liquid with the electrostatic forces of adhesion with other  water  molecules.
> There is an impact, causing high temperature and pressure at the molecular level. At the molecular level, the temperature can exceed 100degC while the ambient pressure would be 1 atm. 
> 
> That is to say, that at the molecular level, upon impact, the impacted molecule of water has to be gaseous, as its temperature as a result of collision exceeds 100degC. This is entirely as per the phase diagram of water. 
> 
> It is, then, a molecule of steam, a gas, which has been released out of water into the air.
> 
> About the heat - that causes enhanced movement among the water molecules, and a particular impact could drive one molecule out of the water when the adhesive forces are less than the impact forces. Once again, a certain kind of collision can increase the local temperature at the molecular level, resulting in steam formation for that evicted molecule.
> 
> Then the question is, how long can the water or rather steam molecules remain mono-molecular. If it meets another molecule or set of molecules, adhesive forces will come into play and there will be a nano-droplet. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 

that is where McGinn gets lost,
the transition from lots of liquid droplets (hot or cold steam) into
single molecules of water, which is invisable gas.

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Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:22 -0800
  Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-08 22:42 +0000
  Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 04:04 -0800
    Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 07:12 -0800
      Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 12:53 -0800
        Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 13:50 -0800
          Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 13:56 -0800
            Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo % <%> - 2018-12-11 15:05 -0700
              Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 14:19 -0800
              Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-11 23:43 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-12 00:06 -0600
            Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 14:29 -0800
              Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 15:41 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 16:14 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 16:18 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 16:24 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 17:02 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 18:45 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-12 00:09 -0600
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:19 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:44 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:46 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 22:47 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 08:58 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 16:40 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 16:59 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 18:04 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:38 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 08:44 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 01:31 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 16:07 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 07:39 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 09:50 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:40 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-15 09:51 -0500
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-15 10:37 -0600
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo kensi <kkensinqton01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-15 11:56 -0500
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 07:23 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 20:16 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 12:12 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 00:09 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 15:17 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 17:54 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 08:56 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 19:40 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-16 13:05 -0600
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 11:32 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 22:12 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 13:32 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 15:24 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 03:13 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 19:12 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:46 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 19:15 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 20:05 -0800
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:16 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 02:04 +0100
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-16 13:30 -0600
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-14 09:02 -0600
                Re: Isaac Newton Is a Lunatic Weirdo James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 07:33 -0800

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