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Re: ADSL over FTTP

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Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> grinch <grinch@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> Also in reply to the topic of this tread, I read the BT sin on FTTP and 
>> they present it as Ethernet,  so  how/why you would want to try to get 
>> adsl working over it is beyond me.
> 
> Not the analogue side of ADSL, but paying the price of a 17Mbps package from
> the usual suspects (Sky, Plusnet, TalkTalk etc) rather than 40/80/300Mbps
> package.  A lot of people don't need much bandwidth, and if their new-build
> only comes with FTTP they're stuck paying more than someone who just has
> copper.
> 
> https://www.homeandbusiness.openreach.co.uk/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-broadband/ultrafast-fibre-buy-it-now
> is the list of FTTP providers, by the way.  The cheapest seems to be
> Spectrum, at 25 pounds per month isn't as bad as BT but it's still about
> double the deals you get from Sky etc on copper.

Appart from money there may be more reasons to choose DSL sometimes.

In my experience with FTTP providers overseas in the US, I have seen
horrible things, like putting customers behind a NAT, and having to
call the customer service to open a port.  In that case it wasn't the
cable-modem, the appartment had an ethernet socket, so you just used
your own router with DHCP.

In the European continent, interesting things also happen, like using
the cheapest network carrier companies to connect their networks to
the internet, which results in ping times worser than ADSL, even in
the bandwidth they give is much higher than ADSL.  Also giving faulty
integrated cable-modem routers, that give high bandwidth when they
work as modem-routers, but when you make them work as modem give lower
bandwidth.

In the UK I never had the chance to try FTTP providers, but there must
be a lot of interesting stories to tell.

FTTP is not a panacea.  Do not expect it to fix all your internet
connection problems.

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ADSL over FTTP Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-11-14 02:13 +0000
  Re: ADSL over FTTP Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-14 03:29 +0000
    Re: ADSL over FTTP Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2018-11-14 08:30 +0000
      Re: ADSL over FTTP Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-14 10:22 +0000
      Re: ADSL over FTTP Alfred <alfred@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-14 11:57 +0000
        Re: ADSL over FTTP Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-14 12:00 +0000
          Re: ADSL over FTTP Alfred <alfred@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:17 +0000
            Re: ADSL over FTTP Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2018-11-14 12:30 +0000
            Re: ADSL over FTTP Alfred <alfred@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:37 +0000
              Re: ADSL over FTTP Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2018-11-14 12:44 +0000
              Re: ADSL over FTTP Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-11-14 15:30 +0000
      Re: ADSL over FTTP Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-14 21:06 +0000
        Re: ADSL over FTTP Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2018-11-15 07:18 +0000
  Re: ADSL over FTTP Alfred <alfred@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-14 11:28 +0000
  Re: ADSL over FTTP 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2018-11-14 13:05 +0000
    Re: ADSL over FTTP +++ATH0 <news@ringpiece.local> - 2018-11-22 21:20 -0800
      Re: ADSL over FTTP grinch <grinch@somewhere.com> - 2018-11-24 14:15 +0000
        Re: ADSL over FTTP Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-11-24 23:00 +0000
          Re: ADSL over FTTP Alfred <alfred@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-25 19:32 +0000
        Re: ADSL over FTTP Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-25 21:57 +0000
          Re: ADSL over FTTP grinch <grinch@somewhere.com> - 2018-11-27 21:04 +0000

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