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Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?"

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?"
Date 2018-11-20 19:09 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2018-11-20, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> http://cds.cern.ch/record/2647090/files/Poster-2018-664.pdf
>> 
>> I did not know that, CERN, but thanks for telling us.  I'm glad you're 
>> not forcing bogus Linux hobbyware on the employees and scientists and 
>> engineers.
>> 
>
> LOL!  It looks like a warning poster.

From the poster ...

~~
Before PC Hardening, 12-15 PCs in the Administrative sector were reinstalled 
every month because of malware risks. Since PC Hardening began the numbers 
went down to 0. PC Hardening has significantly reduced the number of 
machines where incidents have been detected by Antivirus software.
~~

So, in other words, Windows machines without all these special hardening 
techniques were typical Malware Magnet Hobbyware Wincrap. Windows, so secure 
it takes highly trained scientists to "harden" it.

And what do you have to do to get a "hardened" Malware Magnet computer? 
Among other things ...

~~
The main user of a hardened PC is never a member of the Built-in Local 
Administrators group. This ensures that applications are never run with 
elevated privileges.
~~

Home user SOL. No installation of applications. 

~~
Adobe Flash is disabled on all supported browsers.
~~

Well, that makes sense, but you're going to have limitations with a home 
computer.

~~
An alternative PDF reader was introduced as a replacement of the existing 
PDF suite, to avoid running software which was a frequent infection vector.
~~

Another Adobe fail. (Maybe it's a good thing they don't make Photoshop for 
Linux.)

~~
In addition to Anti-virus software, Anti-Malware and Anti-Exploit solutions 
are deployed to offer additional protection by monitoring suspicious 
patterns.
~~

Huh, I thought the WinTrolls told us that Microshit's built-in anti-virus 
would do the job? Apparently not in the real world.

~~
Users who need to receive e-mails from unknown senders as part of their 
official duties (e.g. reception of invoices) are encouraged to use a 
separate hardened VM for e-mail and web browsing. This creates an additional 
layer of protection for sensitive actions carried out by the same users.
~~

So even the "hardened" Malware Magnet Hobbyware OS 10 from Microshit, with 
it's additional ad-blockers, additional anti-virus and anti-malware support, 
disk encryption, lack of elevated privileges, no Flash, no Adobe Reader, 
Firewall scrupulously installed and maintained, PowerShell activity audited 
— they still require another level of hardening for outside "unknown" email. 
A "hardened" Wincrap VM inside a "hardened" Wincrap PC. 

So glad Wincrap is such an "easy" solution for the average home user. I 
don't have time required to harden and maintain this shit.

What a joke. Thanks for unwittingly promoting Linux, DuFuS.

Question to CERN, why not just use Linux? Probably because they would lose 
the many staff members required to keep the Hobbyware Malware Magnet from 
contacting viruses.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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"Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:15 -0500
  Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:31 +0000
    Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 09:45 -0600
      Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 09:47 -0600
        Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 08:40 -0800
      Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-20 11:00 -0500
        Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 10:10 -0600
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            Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 11:19 -0600
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                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 10:45 -0800
            Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 11:28 -0600
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                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 20:50 -0500
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:32 -0800
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                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 10:15 -0500
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 07:39 -0800
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:06 -0500
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:29 +0000
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:23 +0000
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                Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:36 -0800
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            Re: "Did you know that over 8000 Windows PCs are used at CERN everyday?" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:34 -0800
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