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Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!!

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!!
Date 2018-11-05 15:26 +0000
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<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 2:59:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 5:00:47 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 12:14:44 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
>>>>>>>>>> his 'curved space ''THEORY  
>>>>>>>>>> if so 
>>>>>>>>>> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
>>>>>>>>>> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!> >>>> --and around   it 
>>>>>>>>>> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>>>>> =======================> >>> 
>>>>>>>>> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
>>>>>>>>> until now
>>>>>>>>> no one can explain /describe 
>>>>>>>>> how    curved space
>>>>>>>>> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
>>>>>>>> and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
>>>>>>>> answers you went mute. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now here you are doing it on another topic. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I man  not  only in this    NG
>>>>>>>>> but in general and   everywhere 
>>>>>>>>> just mumblings are  going on  here 
>>>>>>>>> and there 
>>>>>>>>> ==============> >>> TIA
>>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>>> ==============> >>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =================> > what is that you don't understand little parrot
>>>>>>> I wanted to show  
>>>>>>> that idiots like you 
>>>>>>> speak about curved  space  right ??
>>>>>>> as the maim actor of gravity
>>>>>>> if so
>>>>>>> I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
>>>>>>> called  CURVED SPACE 
>>>>>>> that is doing  gravity
>>>>>>> if so 
>>>>>>> just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES
>>>>>>> !!) just the  great magician 
>>>>>>> that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
>>>>>>> so 
>>>>>>> if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
>>>>>>> tell us 
>>>>>>> how is that wizard  (curved  space )
>>>>>>> how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
>>>>>>> is it just one curve around all involved  masses
>>>>>>> is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc 
>>>>>>> in short 
>>>>>>> you have not the faintest idea  about what you are 
>>>>>>> mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
>>>>>>> A BIG NOTHING !!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That s wrong. Sorry. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> got it idiot crock ??
>>>>>>> if you don't understand 
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT   
>>>>>>> JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that  is demanded form a real  scientist
>>>>>>> we are not here 
>>>>>>> in a fish (fishy )market !!!
>>>>>>> ==> > Y.Porat 
>>>>>>> ==============================================> > > 
>>>>>> ==================I ask you Bodkin 
>>>>> a simple question :
>>>>> 
>>>>> the  EDIGTON EXPERIMENT WAS CONSIDRED 
>>>>> a big triumph of 'curves space'
>>>>> in that experiment at  least   
>>>>> 3 main Msses  where involved  in  it
>>>>> if  so
>>>>> a basic  needed question has to be explained :
>>>>> 
>>>>> how was ''curved space' was looking like 
>>>>> even just approximately  like --
>>>>> -- during that famous experiment ?!!
>>>>> that was considered  a breakthrough experiment 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> curved space' story ??
>>>> 
>>>> I already showed you how to calculate the curvature of spacetime in the
>>>> vicinity of the earth s surface, using the simple everyday observation of
>>>> throwing a baseball 30 feet.
> 
> ===============
> YOU DINT ANSWR 
> HOW DOES YOUR FEN CURVED SPACE
> LOOK LIKE  
> AROUND    THE 3!!!! MASSES INVOLVED 
> SUN 
> PLANT
> AND EARTH ??!

What plant? You mean planet? The only planet involved in the Eddington
experiment was the Earth. If you don’t know what Eddington did, try reading
a book about it. 

There are 4D wells surrounding the sun and the earth, and the one around
the sun dominates the experiment completely for obvious reasons. 

>>>> 
>>>> This same kind of calculation can be used to calculate the curvature of
>>>> spacetime near the sun s surface. Just follow the same calculation.
> 
> PIGGY
> TELL US HOE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL 
> ARUND ALLABOVE  3  MASSES /!!???
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Substituting the mass and radius of the sun for the mass and radius of the
>>>> earth. 
> ===
> BUT PIGGY 
> YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ** ALL**  OF THEM
>   simultaneously !!!!
> because ha was the REALITY THERE qq

No, you really don’t. The sun was BY FAR the biggest mass in the experiment
and so the effect of any other bodies is negligible. Second, the bending
only is significant if the light is grazing tangentially. The light came in
almost vertically to the earth and so no significant bending happens there.


You really have NO idea other than a cartoon version what this experiment
measured and how, do you?

> 
> er
> ========
> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2
>>>>> I was asking another question 
>>>>> 
>>>>> what are/is  the minimal number of basic physical dimensions 
>>>>> that are  the   needed for a PHYSICAL ENTITY
>>>>> IN  ORDER OF BEING CONSIDERD  
>>>>> A PHYSICAL  ENTITY ??!
>>>> 
>>>> There aren t any minimal ones. 
> =
> oh o see 
> length is good enough for all  sound  physics?
> but even for length
> you need point of mass there !! 
> you did not answer that
>  !
> complicated for a genius like you ???
>  > >>> ================TIA
>>>> ==============================imbecile !!!!
>>> 
>>> if just length   is goo enough to  make it 
>>> AN **ACTIVE* PHYSICAL ENRITY !!!???!!
>>> what for were the 
>>> M K S or c g s system whee created ??
>> ===============================================
>> Not for what you think. Not to set a minimum for physical entity.
> ==================
> if so 
> FOR WAHT ??!!

For setting a stable and reproducible standard for unit measures. Period.
That’s ALL its for. 

> 
> ==
> don't you  (here I snip the insult) )
> so 
> don't  you understand that
> you  cant   measure   a distance  in  space 
> UNLESS   THERE ARE POINTS OF MASSIN IY ?? !!
> 
> == 
>> 
>>> and used  SO LONG AND SO  SUCCESFULL YY !!!
>>> 2
>>> can you idiot 
>>> even  just detect a physical  entity that has 
>>> for instance no mass ??
>>> 
>>> sorry my rudeness  but there should be a limit 
>>> to damaging 
>>> 
>>> ==Y.P
>>> =============   
>  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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