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Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this!

From Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this!
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Message-ID <prgjfs$ka1$1@gonzo.alcatraz> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <g3vn5jFc84bU1@mid.individual.net> <011120180402308647%nospam@nospam.invalid> <preupu$34p$1@dont-email.me> <prf74b0d2g@news2.newsguy.com> <prgamm$atn$1@dont-email.me>
Date 2018-11-02 04:23 +0000

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On 2018-11-02, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>> On 11/1/18 9:24 AM, Paul wrote:
>>> The part that amazes me, is how quickly the
>>> helium seems to incapacitate the phone. It's
>>> like there's no seal at all around these things.
>> 
>> When I had to design stuff to a certain military specification, some
>> things had to be hermetically sealed. Helium leak detectors are used for
>> this because helium can penetrate where air cannot.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_mass_spectrometer
>> 
>
> https://www.sitime.com/support/faqs
>
>     Q: How effective is the hermetic seal of MEMS oscillators??
>
>     A; One of the key elements enabling extremely stable MEMS resonators
>        is SiTime's EpiSeal process which hermetically seals the resonators
>        during wafer processing, eliminating any need for hermetically sealed
>        ceramic packaging. SiTime's EpiSeal resonator is impervious to the
>        highest concentration elements in the atmosphere, nitrogen and oxygen,
>        and therefore acts as a perfect seal.
>
>        Previous generations of EpiSeal resonators may have been impacted by
>        large concentrations of small-molecule gas. <===
>
>        Newer EpiSeal resonators are impervious to all small-molecule gases.
>        Please contact SiTime in case you are planning to use a SiTime device
>        in large concentrations of small-molecule gas, so that we can recommend
>        an appropriate, immune part.

 Helium is not small-molecule, it monatomic. I don't know if they are
relying on that technicality or not.

-- 
  When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

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Here you go, Apple lovers!  Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-31 20:24 -0500
  Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! NumbLock <789456123@0.com> - 2018-10-31 20:20 -0700
    Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 14:40 +0000
      Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-19 08:12 +0000
    Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-11-01 07:50 -0700
  Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:09 +0000
    Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 04:02 -0400
      Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 09:24 -0400
        Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 09:30 -0400
          Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-02 11:46 +1300
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 19:06 -0400
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 08:42 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-02 13:02 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-03 14:34 +1300
        Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 14:43 +0000
        Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-11-01 11:46 -0400
          Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 21:53 -0400
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-11-02 04:23 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 01:45 -0400
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 02:16 -0400
    Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-11-01 08:45 -0500
      Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 15:00 +0000
        Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-01 11:27 -0500
          Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-11-01 15:25 -0500
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-11-08 10:06 +0100
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-11-08 08:11 -0500
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-08 08:37 -0600
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-09 16:49 +0000
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-11-09 15:25 -0600
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-10 00:42 -0500
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-09 13:56 +1300
          Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 22:04 -0400
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-02 06:41 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 04:20 -0400
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-11-02 05:51 -0700
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:47 +0000
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-02 16:31 -0400
                Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:14 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-02 13:06 +0000
              Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-02 07:19 -0500
            Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-02 07:15 -0500
          Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-11-08 15:38 +0100

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