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Re: Tomorrow's battery medium

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Date 2018-10-15 16:55 +0000
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gnuarm  wrote
>If you can't add a 50 amp electric outlet your wiring must be pretty primitive.
> In the US we have been installing 200 amp service for many decades.  I
>have a house built in the 60s by my dad who was perpetually cheap and only
>installed 100 amp service and I can still add an outlet that will charge overnight.

IMO your view of reality is severely limited to your own 'scene'.
Here people park their car in front of the house, IF there is space,
running your charging cable over the sidewalk will get you in trouble.
Maybe run for 40 or 50 meters too if you need to park a bit further..
Losses, tangled mess, no way.

In the cities people live in flats, cars parked outside, or if you are lucky in some sort of
garage.
In short forget about charging overnight.
So now everybody needs to go and wait an hour to charge,

The electric grid here is in no way capable of the power your need.
Somebody do the math, the number of cars multiplied by ..
You do not even have enough power stations.

It is a dream, a usable reality only for a few, totally unpractical,
and an enormous load on the environment to replace that battery pack every few years...

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Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 02:15 +0000
  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-12 21:14 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 22:39 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 09:22 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-10-13 23:00 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-14 12:24 +0000
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 09:13 +0000
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-13 10:47 +0000
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 15:19 -0700
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 18:46 -0400
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 16:17 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-13 21:04 -0400
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-13 13:42 +0100
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 13:02 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 07:06 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 11:38 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 15:05 -0400
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 20:39 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 17:27 -0400
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 16:14 -0700
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 16:56 -0700
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 00:32 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 18:53 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 19:52 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-14 20:07 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 21:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 08:19 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 14:55 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 16:21 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 21:17 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 05:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:57 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 18:48 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 02:13 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-15 03:17 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-15 09:56 +0200
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 03:48 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 05:58 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-15 16:34 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 08:09 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-15 16:55 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 11:01 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 21:03 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 07:20 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 08:31 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 17:15 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:17 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium makolber@yahoo.com - 2018-10-16 06:54 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 07:12 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium makolber@yahoo.com - 2018-10-17 06:30 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:00 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-17 20:02 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 15:27 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-18 06:00 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 23:50 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-18 03:35 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 04:08 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:29 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:05 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 17:15 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 12:16 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 10:43 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-17 10:44 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 13:35 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:08 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 12:14 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 05:33 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 09:02 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 15:00 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 16:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:52 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 19:16 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 02:30 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 12:00 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 05:43 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:46 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 15:16 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-16 20:14 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 21:26 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 15:22 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-16 19:43 -0400
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 19:33 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 18:40 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:44 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:46 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 14:58 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-16 20:31 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 21:31 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 18:36 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-17 04:21 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 23:56 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:15 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:18 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> - 2018-10-19 14:13 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 16:56 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:49 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 19:28 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 13:32 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:58 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 17:10 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 19:07 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 21:06 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 19:54 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> - 2018-10-15 17:04 +0100
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:59 +0200
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-14 09:31 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-14 10:03 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2018-10-14 17:55 +0000
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-14 12:47 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-14 16:17 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-14 18:06 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-14 14:33 -0400
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> - 2018-10-15 12:17 +0100
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-15 11:34 +0000
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-15 13:30 +0000
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-18 06:28 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2018-10-18 09:42 +0200
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 04:04 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2018-10-18 14:23 +0200
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          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-18 13:18 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-18 20:00 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 14:34 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-18 15:10 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-19 07:11 +0000
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 20:31 -0700
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                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 20:20 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 21:16 -0700
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            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-19 07:11 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-19 09:21 +0200
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-19 07:37 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 05:07 -0700
  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-13 08:42 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 16:50 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-13 19:01 -0700
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  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-10-13 22:53 -0700
  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 11:59 -0700
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