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Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break

From "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break
Date 2018-10-10 08:55 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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"Grant Taylor" <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote

| > . you know the one running the site don't care about your privacy.
|
| I disagree.
|
| Their competency level does not directly correlate / translate to them
| not caring about your privacy.
|

   That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that
he's correct in general. Look at any website you
normally visit. It's very likely there's at least code
there for Google tracking, and probably code for
Google ads. In most cases there are completely
unnecessary fonts and scripts pulled in from
elsewhere. And often there are tracker spyware
beacons from the likes of scorecardresearch.com.

  You could say that those webmasters care about
your privacy and just don't know any better, but
that's really not tenable. Anyone who knows enough
to paste in Google tracking code has a basic idea
of what's going on. *They don't care about your
privacy.* They'd probably start yapping about
tinfoil hats if you even mentioned it to them.
It's a simple case of smallmindedness. They can't
be bothered to really think about what they're doing.
They're just trying to make snazzy sites and get
paid as much as possible. They can get paid more if
they sell you out to Google. And like any smallminded
person, they justify that in their own minds by
thinking, "So what? Everyone's doing it." If anyone
wants to make them think about what they're
doing, they drown it out with, "TINFOIL HAT!"

   In the process, they play into corporate tracking
by jumping on every halfwit javascript bandwagon
that hobbles by. "71 dynamically loaded fonts that
all look the same? What a great idea! How can I do
that? Load Google slop remotely? Count me in! That is
sooooo cooool!"

  Last night I visited a site I found in a Michael
Pollan book: csp.org. Council on Spiritual Practices.
They're some kind of clearing house for ideas about
psychedelic drugs and religious experience. Sounded
interesting. It's people who want to experience life
more fully, deeply and joyfully. And they think there
might be a correlation between what chemicals like
psilocybin do and what advanced meditation
techniques do. A bit of a 60s, consumer-goes-
shopping-for-spirituality-on-sale rehash. But I was
curious what they're up to. Ironically, their webpage
was entirely broken. Entirely unnecessarily. And they
don't care about your privacy.

   They pull in a 4.4 MB js file just to do basic things
like load pages from an anchor tag. The internal
links don't work without script! The script is coming
from Cloudfront. They also have Google-Analytics code.
So both Google and Amazon would be tracking me if
I allowed script.

   The https might be stopping my ISP from reading
the page I visit, but Google and Amazon are infesting
the page unnecessarily!

   ....On the other hand, why are Chrome users talking
about privacy? Worrying about https in Chrome, aside
from sites where you give out a credit card number, is
like alcoholics worrying about whether coffee might
cause liver damage. Can you say "denial"? :) 

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With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 08:41 -0500
  Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 15:50 +0000
    Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 11:35 -0500
      Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:37 +0200
        Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 21:00 +0000
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2018-10-10 00:28 +0200
    Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-10 02:01 +0200
  Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-10-09 19:54 +0200
    Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break elvis-85650@notatla.org.uk - 2018-10-09 21:53 +0000
  Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 14:40 -0600
    Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 23:17 +0200
      Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 16:18 -0600
        Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 06:45 +0200
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:46 +0200
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 09:28 -0400
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:05 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:26 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:23 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-10 08:32 -0700
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:17 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 13:52 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:15 +0000
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 15:01 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 19:49 +0000
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 18:02 +0200
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:26 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:11 +0000
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 20:12 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:42 +0200
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-10 16:22 -0400
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:46 +0200
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 21:14 +0000
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-11 15:40 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2018-10-11 15:08 -0500
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-12 00:00 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 20:56 +0000
        Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 08:55 -0400
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:10 +0200
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:31 -0400
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:49 +0200
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:32 +0100
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 08:45 -0600
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 14:06 -0400
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 13:44 -0600
          Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:30 +0100
            Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 09:24 -0400
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:02 +0200
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 14:12 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 01:01 +0200
              Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-12 20:30 -0500
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-12 22:05 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-13 07:41 -0500
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-13 09:59 -0400
                Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-10-15 19:14 +0000

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