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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-10-02 21:17 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 5:50:23 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 11:30:24 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:22:58 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:41:42 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My uncle, the person who told me about this, said the lumber and logging
>>>>>>>>> people who went to Washington, D.C., went home like a bunch of whipped puppies.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Whipped puppies defeated by a few tens of thousands of dollars. Must be
>>>>>>>> those global elitists spending those vast sums of money. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I would assume so.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So did you ever wonder why you can get wood for your woodworking where
>>>>>>>>> you live, and people in the West cannot use the wood where they live
>>>>>>>>> because it is all reserved for huge forest fires to prove there is global warming?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I get some of my wood from Montana. I don’t know why you think logging is
>>>>>>>> completely shut down in Montana. In 2015 Montana produced 535 million board
>>>>>>>> feet of lumber, and sales increased from 2016 to 2017. So somehow they are
>>>>>>>> employing 400 logging equipment operators and 400 saw operators in Montana,
>>>>>>>> producing all that wood, but they’ve been keeping all that secret from you.
>>>>>>>> Maybe they just don’t want you to come back. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are still two sawmills in Montana in operation which saw logs from
>>>>>>> state land, both near Helena, the state capitol.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At least those two. At least. It seems unlikely each of these two employs
>>>>>> 200 saw operators and cuts 270 MMBF. So let’s just say your view into the
>>>>>> statistics may be limited. But even so, you seem to be complaining that
>>>>>> because you cannot work as one of the 800 people mentioned above, or as one
>>>>>> of the 1300 cabinetmakers, woodworkers, or millwrights presently engaged in
>>>>>> Montana, then the industry is just completely dead in Montana. Well, that
>>>>>> my be your opinion, but those 2100 workers seem to be supporting their
>>>>>> families. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I was growing up there were about 15,000 people in Lincoln County,
>>>>> Montana, at least over half of whom were directly involved with the
>>>>> lumber industry.  Now there are about 19,000 in a county twice the size
>>>>> of the state of Delaware.  Delaware has about a million people.  So
>>>>> Lincoln County, Montana, is just the way you want it to be.  But I am not
>>>>> going to try to live there because all the work there is shut down, and
>>>>> Lincoln County has the highest percentage of people receiving social
>>>>> security benefits of any county in the United States.  
>>>>> Two sawmills cutting logs from state land near Helena do not help
>>>>> Lincoln County at all.  
>>>>> I don't really know how to explain this to
>>>>> you, but 500 million feet of
>>>>> lumber is not really much compared to the amount of lumber that used to
>>>>> come from Montana.  
>>>> 
>>>> Well, it’s certainly less, but it is not zero by any stretch. And so
>>>> statements like “the lumber industry is completely shut down in the state
>>>> of Montana” or “the only wood you can find in the US all comes from Canada”
>>>> are exaggerations that don’t contribute positively to any credibility you
>>>> may want to muster. 
>>>> 
>>>> You mention Delaware. Delaware is the sixth most densely populated state in
>>>> the US, partly because of its proximity to major metropolitan areas like
>>>> Washington DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and New York. Despite that, Montana
>>>> has cities bigger than any of the ones in Delaware.  Delaware is one of
>>>> five states that do not have a single city with a population over 100,000
>>>> as of the 2010 census, the other four being West Virginia, Vermont, Maine
>>>> and Wyoming, three of those being “Eastern states” you mentioned earlier.
>>>> Lincoln County’s population isn’t very big, partly because there are more
>>>> trees than people. If you think it’s unfair that Delaware has a million
>>>> people and Lincoln County does not, the solution would be to cut down all
>>>> the trees. But then if you do that, I don’t know what you expect those
>>>> million people to do. I do note that the population of Lincoln County has
>>>> increased rather than decreased since you say the government removed
>>>> everyone’s livelihood. That’s unusual demographic behavior for a place with
>>>> no jobs, don’t you think?
>>>> 
>>>> As for what you said about logging in Montana, what you said earlier is
>>>> that the only logging in Montana are a couple of private outfits who own
>>>> their own trees. But now you say the only sawmills in Montana are the two
>>>> near Helena that harvest from state land. I know for a fact there are more
>>>> sawmills than that in Montana. One of them, R-Y Timber has a mill down in
>>>> Livingston, clear down by Bozeman, and they employ 200 workers between
>>>> their two mills, and they cut a sixth of all of the structural timber that
>>>> Montana produces. But perhaps because they are not in Lincoln County, then
>>>> you have as much interest in them as you do in length contraction, and as
>>>> far as you’re concerned, they just don’t exist. 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trump was elected in 2016.  I don't know if you knew about that. 
>>>>>>> Supposedly, he is trying to get the lumber industry in the United States
>>>>>>> going again.  Everything was shut down back around 1980, which was when I
>>>>>>> moved to Arizona.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everything was shut down, you say.  Except for 535 MMBF per year. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I said everything was shut down in Lincoln County, Montana.  Lincoln
>>>>> County is not the entire state of Montana.  I know what a difficult
>>>>> concept this must seem to you.   
>>>> 
>>>> Well, for the record, you said you had to move to Arizona because there was
>>>> no logging work in Montana as a whole. Now, why someone would move to
>>>> Arizona because they can’t find work in their county would have to be
>>>> explained to me. A friend of mine lost his job at a garage in Johnson
>>>> County, Kansas, near Kansas City. So he moved to Eudora in Douglas County
>>>> and works at a garage in Lawrence. 
>>>> 
>>>> But I understand what you’re saying. You’re saying that if the lumber
>>>> industry in Montana is not as big as it used to be, then it’s been
>>>> completely shut down as far as you’re concerned. And you’re saying that if
>>>> you can’t work in Lincoln County the way you wanted to, then you’re just
>>>> not going to do logging at all, anywhere. Instead you’ll just pick oranges
>>>> and collect government payouts in some faraway state and blame global
>>>> elitists who spent tens of thousands of dollars to make your life
>>>> unsatisfying. 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It must be fun just making things up. I don’t really know about that
>>>>>>>> though, I’ve never been into it like you are.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In my neighborhood, families put that kind of cash into their family home.
>>>>>>>>>> Does that make these families global elitists?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is a good chance they are if they live in Eastern states.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That’s not where my neighborhood is. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So where is your neighborhood?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the western states, Robert. Are those people who muster tens of
>>>>>> thousands of dollars to build or buy a family home what you call global
>>>>>> elitists? Because that’s what you called them above. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is difficult to buy a house for that amount of money in Montana today.
>>>>> The state of Montana might as well be called northern California or
>>>>> western New York.   
>>>> 
>>>> So Montana is one of those Eastern States with global elitists in it now. I
>>>> see. Now perhaps I understand why you moved to Arizona. 
>>> 
>>> It is nothing new.  What little private land that existed in Montana
>>> began to be bought up by eastern establishment money and California money
>>> back in the 1960's.  Chet Huntley, the newscaster, was the one who
>>> started the fad of buying land in Montana.  Now land is so expensive
>>> there that only people with a lot of money can buy it.  
>>> I moved to Arizona to get work.  The sawmill where I had been working was shut down.   
>> 
>> Yes I know. And because that particular sawmill in that particular county
>> was shut down, you’re prone to say that in Montana, “everything” in the
>> lumber industry has been shut down by Easterners, by which I gather you
>> mean modern Montana residents. Aside from the few dozen sawmills publicly
>> operating in Montana today, producing 535 million board feet, including
>> three mills in Flathead county to the east of Lincoln county. 
>> 
> Well, I am sure that three mills in Flathead County have people lined up
> wanting to work for them.  

You’re sure? On what basis do you come to this belief? Is it factual
evidence or the same internal conviction that has also told you that length
contraction is impossible? Because if it’s internal convictions, Robert,
then you have a nice little mental game going on with yourself, finding
reasons to avoid getting on your feet. I mean, why try? Why try when
there’s money enough from Social Security?

> In Arizona I have cheap rent on a trailer with utilities paid and some
> work welding every month.  I am going to Montana to visit for two weeks
> this Friday, but I am not going to try to get work there.  They have
> plenty of people already trying to get the few sawmill jobs there.  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:56 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 21:41 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 06:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 18:25 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-09 05:44 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-09 14:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-09 23:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 12:43 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 16:41 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:23 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 12:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 15:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 15:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 23:09 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 16:51 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 00:27 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 11:52 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 21:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 13:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 15:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 03:11 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:02 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 08:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:22 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-18 10:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 15:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 00:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 04:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 07:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 08:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 10:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 13:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 13:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 14:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 17:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 19:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 20:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 05:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 12:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 18:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 06:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:32 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:01 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 07:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 07:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:07 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:54 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-23 03:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-23 10:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 10:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 21:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 06:06 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 03:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 15:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 20:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 02:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 07:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 15:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:01 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:53 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:16 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 08:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 23:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 07:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 15:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 21:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 04:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-27 11:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 21:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-29 06:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:13 -0700

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