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Re: WHAT IS THE RADIUS OF CURVATURE AROUND SUN ....AND

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: WHAT IS THE RADIUS OF CURVATURE AROUND SUN ....AND
Date 2018-09-28 23:45 +0000
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<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 8:55:03 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 6:47:53 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:20:35 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:34:39 PM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 5:54:06 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:47:05 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> WHAT IS THE RADIUS OF CURVATURE OF SPACE AROUND SUN ?
>>>>>>>>> ANd WHAT  IS IT AROUND EARTH ??
>>>>>>>>> (:-) .....
>>>>>>>>> ==================> > > > TIA
>>>>>>>>> Y.POrat
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The diameter of the Sun.
>>>>>>>> The diameter of the Earth...
>>>>>>>> Gravity is a sphere closed curve.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nothing goes in a straight line,The universe is a spinning sphere.All
>>>>>>> that it contains spins round and round.Spin creates inertia and curving
>>>>>>> of space.Inertia and gravity are two sides to the same coin.In 1952
>>>>>>> Einstein and I talked about this.We agreed this was reality.It is the
>>>>>>> heart of his GR.So many years ago,but this thinking will always be in Google.Bert
>>>>>> ======================> why do you talk so much ??!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> see  
>>>>>> ==================================================> MASS IS THE CREATOR
>>>>>> OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY !
>>>>>> ======================================================> 2
>>>>>> there is inu universe some  unknown yet 
>>>>>> basic particles that move''naturally' 
>>>>>> in curved lines
>>>>>> and they make all forces 
>>>>>> and do all pull forces -
>>>>>> -by mutual colissin   and recycling 
>>>>>> that is how ''it was born ever since 
>>>>>> if you like a basic   assumption 
>>>>>> that has to be developed     
>>>>>> see 
>>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract 
>>>>>> ================> at its appendix !!
>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>> 
>>>>> ============and if so no need for the idiotic assumption of 
>>>>> curved space ''
>>>>> no curvature and  no schmervature  of space 
>>>>> but
>>>>> natural curved motion of those quotes 
>>>>> 'y circlons'
>>>>> that can  explain all  of it 
>>>>> ====TIA
>>>>> Y.P
>>>>> ==================> 
>>>> You keep saying, qualitative before quantitative. But keep in mind that
>>>> explanation in science requires proof of viability by quantitative match
>>>> against measurement. Until you can PROVE that the circling idea gets the
>>>> numbers right, then your claim that they can explain it all will be
>>>> dismissed as an empty and unsubstantiated claim. The onus is on you to
>>>> provide that quantitative proof of viability. No one will give you credit
>>>> for anything of value until you do. 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> ==================================Bod 
>>> the only positive think i can say about you 
>>> sd that 
>>> you are not indifferent against me (:-)
>>> ie
>>> something at the 'back of your mind'tell you 
>>> that  that y p
>>> is one of the most interesting chaps in this ng (:-)
>>> and i indirectly thank you for that 
>>> 2
>>> to tell me that 'i am  not quantitative' is ...
>>> ...
>>> i don t want to deteriorate our personal relations 
>>> and say 
>>> you cheat !!!!
>>> or alternatively  you are blind !!!
>>> 
>>> here it is again my abstract
>>> 
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstact 
>>> 
>>> pease look mre attentivly there 
>>> and tell me please :
>>> 
>>> DO YOU SEE ANY FIGURES THERE ??!!
>> 
>> For your string of orbital idea? Yes. For circlons and gravity? No. 
> ====================for my 'chain of orbitals' 
> you are right  
> now
> about Y Circlon'' of course 
> i never thought about it quantitatively 
> it is a fantastic novelty 
> so how can i have calculations ?

Until you do, it will get no attention. 

> 
> i thought that about  my  nuclear  model :
> dont you think that it is a **life time work**
> for itself ?? for    one person ??!!
>  i worked about it,lets say about 10 years 
> sometimes 
> day and much of the night !!
> parallel you my day job
> as a bridge engineer ...
> now about my y Circlon 
> dot you think that it is 
> something once in a lifetime
> even just the idea !!
> because it is some .sort of 
> divine enlightenment  (with all the modesty)
> it stated by 
> 100 percent conviction that space is nothing !!
> and if so 
> can do '' nothing!! 
> and if so  i started to look for some another alternative  that will be tangible 
> may be the Faraday experiment with the magnetyt 
> was ''at the back of my mind along decades !
> 2]
> i was convinced that  basic particles
> ar sort of 100  percent elastic entities 
> with 100  percent collision moment !!
> or else i cannot survive forever !!
> 
> you see knowledge/study  plus intuition !!
> that was occupying i most of my free time
> i was capture ' by physics from age aay 14 
> read  about the grate people of science 
> 3
> now you suggest that i will start all over from beginning ay my age ??(80)
> you arr right 
> without quantitative work 
> it will not be accepted as science 
> alli cando now 
> is saring collecting any piece of information
> to go on   with  it 
> but that is not east
> itis a job  for decades 
> may be in collaborations with  others 
> etc 
> but asi isayed above
> what i achieved until now 
> is a life time job 
> TIA
> Y.P
> =============================
>>> ''hadron ballance '
>>> losses calculations rt each connection point 
>>> angles of deviation 
>>> etc etc 
>>> many **figures** that i kept secret only for myself 
>> 
>> Scientist publish their calculations. 
>> This may seem odd to you, but scientists do not withhold their calculations
>> out of fear that someone will steal them. And in fact, hiding calculations
>> is one of the fastest ways to get completely ignored in the scientific
>> world. 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> ONLY AN ABSTRACT OF A BOOK 150 DENSE PAGES !!
>>> ***unprecedented*  unique explanation 
>>> about the 
>>> 'geologic clock'
>>> archoplic  clock '
>>> etc etc 
>>> so
>>> btw Bodkin or whatever is your real name ...!
>>> (actually i have a guess what is your real name ..)
>>> i can 'smell' people from thousand of kilometers ..
>>> so
>>> would you like to be the publisher of that  book ??...
>> 
>> I have no way to do that. Im not a publisher. 
>> 
>> This may come as a shock to you, but physicists PAY to have their
>> calculations published in journals. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> that might be ''the ''deal of your life'' ...
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ===============================================> > 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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