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Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1

From Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware
Subject Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1
Date 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has the source
>> code for every app on android.
> 
> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code that has
> been available for years, was doing something illegal, then Google would
> have a case against them since clearly New Pipe does many things that the
> YouTube app can't do (and which, for some features, Google attempts to
> extract money from YouTube Red subscribers for).
> 
> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at obvious
> logical facts, and make an adult assessment, 

Ok. Let's go there.

You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. Therefore as
new pipe is available from Google it can't be illegal. That's true.

However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the legality of an
act using that object or thing. Just because new pipe isn't illegal doesn't
mean you can't use for illegal activity. They are logically distinct.

If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal *only* if
B's only purpose is to enable A.

> which is that Google (IMHO) is
> most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe functionality and source
> code particulars.

Stop snipping relevant responses. I already covered this.

> You may wish to assume Google is ignorant of New Pipe functionality, but I
> don't assume that Google is that ignorant of an app that directly competes
> with both their freeware app and their payware app.
> 
> IMHO, it's just not logical to think Google is _that_ ignorant

Logic isn't your strong point. Why not trying sticking to your "facts"? 

> (particularly in light of the fact they yanked the multiple New Pipe clones
> off of Google Play about, oh, about half a year or so ago, as I recall).

And you're willfully ignorant if you believe that because Google allows new
pipe to be available on it's play store, it absolves you of any
responsibility of how you use it. Its like saying Ford cars can do 100mph
therefore you're allowed to drive at that speed whenever you want. 

Be a grown up and accept your actions for what they truly are.

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The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
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      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
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              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
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          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
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      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
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              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
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