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Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR

From	Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR
Date	2018-09-17 07:57 +0200
Organization	news.eternal-september.org
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
>
>>>>> In  GR, light propagates along the shortest path, 
>>>> ...  taking the shortest time.
>>> The locally _longest_ (proper) time.
>> 
>> Is not the proper time (interval) defined for (locally in GR)
>>  time-like space-time  intervals?
> 
> It is.

But as there was only light involved, there are no timelike 
 intervals in the settings, only lightlike ones. If there is no
 timelike interval, there is no longest proper time.

> 
>> As, putting aside unavailability of light speed for clocks,
>>  passing any 3D space distance at light speed yields zero proper
>>  time due infinite length contraction, therefore passing zero
>                                                            ^^^^
>>  distance at zero time.
>    ^^^^^^^^
> Of course not.  Think about what you are saying.

I have said respectable. If I did not think about it, I would not
 write it.

Let suppose for now clocks can move at light  speed.
Let suppose such a clocks is moving along the line from the Moon
 to the Earth at light speed.

Space distances contract for moving objects in direction of their
 motion.  That is reason why cosmic muons can reach sea level, as
 atmosphere is much thinner for them.

Distance Earth Moon would be zero for such clocks, as gamma  would
 be infinite. The clock time would be the same passing Moon and
 Earth  as well. Similarly, if muons had had  light speed, they
 would not decay at all.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
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fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-08 10:59 -0700
  Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 20:30 +0200
    Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-08 12:04 -0700
  Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 13:23 -0700
  Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:38 -0700
  Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 13:59 -0700
    Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 21:34 -0700
    Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:14 +0200
      Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:21 +0200
        Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-13 10:49 +0200
          Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-16 09:10 +0200
            Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-16 11:36 +0200
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 10:16 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-16 13:36 +0200
            Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 10:14 +0000
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-16 11:55 -0700
            Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-16 23:24 +0200
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-17 07:57 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-17 23:16 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-17 23:18 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 21:22 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-17 14:47 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-17 23:53 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-18 08:04 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:56 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-19 08:52 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:22 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-20 09:29 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 12:15 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-20 15:48 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-21 16:59 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 19:43 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-22 08:21 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:55 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-23 09:42 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 13:18 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-23 21:58 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-23 15:00 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 20:16 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 16:37 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 20:13 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 13:34 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 21:45 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:12 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 22:30 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:34 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 22:47 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:44 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-25 14:57 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 13:45 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-27 22:44 +0000
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-22 09:13 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-22 19:57 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-22 12:42 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-23 08:58 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-23 09:14 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-23 18:29 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-23 10:28 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-23 20:37 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-23 11:53 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 11:45 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-26 12:30 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 12:37 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-26 13:43 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 15:45 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 12:19 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR alsor@interia.pl - 2018-09-28 10:48 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 13:23 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-18 09:35 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-18 22:07 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-19 02:27 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 17:30 -0700
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        Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-13 19:10 +0200
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                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-13 19:03 -0700
            Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-14 07:50 +0200
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-13 23:03 -0700
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-14 08:28 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-14 01:52 -0700
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-18 22:01 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-19 01:32 +0200
              Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-18 21:57 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-19 01:47 +0200
                Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 17:00 -0700
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    Re: fantastic question about light bending in the GR Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-14 07:54 +0200
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