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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-09-11 11:52 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 5:41:02 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 2:18:34 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 11:09:39 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 11:17:37 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, but you never did explain this, Gary.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So you are so stupid that you think "ideal clocks" need explanation?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When Hafele and Keating reunited the ideal clocks they used, one
>>>>>>>>> showed less time than the other.  How do you suppose that happened
>>>>>>>>> if one was not slower than the other?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tom Roberts has explained this MANY times.  Do you belong in the
>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's ward?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you want to try to put me there?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am neither your doctor nor your relative.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Where did Tom Roberts come from?  I was talking to you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's hard to believe ANYONE who has been in this group as long as you have
>>>>>> doesn't know who Tom Roberts is.  You are either grossly ignorant or
>>>>>> lwing again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom Roberts never talks to me.  He knows he has no answers for the
>>>>> questions I ask.  You think he does, which is why you are trying to refer me to him.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Answer the question.  If two clocks start out with the same rate of
>>>>>>> time, and one is flown on an airplane and comes back with a different
>>>>>>> time than the one left on the ground, then one was slower than the
>>>>>>> other during the flight of the airplane.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It has been explained more than one way.  One is that the clocks travel
>>>>>> different paths in spacetime.  As an analogy, consider driving from
>>>>>> city A to city B at 60 MPH on a freeway and the trip odometer reads
>>>>>> 90 miles at the end of the journey.  Another car goes from city A to
>>>>>> city B using country roads, also at 60 MPH.  The trip odometer reads
>>>>>> 100 miles at the end of the trip.  The speed didn't change but the trip
>>>>>> took longer and the distance was longer even though the speeds (analogous
>>>>>> to clock rate) were the same.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I have a better analogy where an airplane goes around the earth at
>>>>> the equator.  Explain that one.  
>>>> 
>>>> Well for one thing, you’re using that flat-space formula for circumference,
>>>> which is an incorrect one to use in conjunction with general relativity.
>>>> That’s what that airplane experiment was about. 
>>>> 
>>>> So all you’ve demonstrated is that you don’t know enough about relativity
>>>> to discuss that experiment intelligently. 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is also a logical argument:  Two cars with relative velocity of 50
>>>>>> MPH.  Since velocity is purely relative, it is impossible to say which
>>>>>> is going slower and which is going faster (without a third reference).
>>>>>> By the Principle of Relativity, either can claim he is stationary and
>>>>>> the other is moving at 50 MPH.  Thus either may claim that the other's
>>>>>> clock is the one that is "slow" and thus it is illogical and irrational
>>>>>> to claim one clock is "actually" going slow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So we will see if I have cast my pearls before swine or not.  I expect
>>>>>> you will now deny the PoR (which is a premise of the GT and the LT) or
>>>>>> you will ignore this discussion of reality.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, reality shows that you get faster speeds with a slower clock.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, you don't.  Speed is not measured with broken clocks.  You are
>>>>>>>> dissembling again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, let's work the problem.  We will run the Hafele-Keating with an
>>>>>>> airplane
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, we won't.  The H-K experiments involve MUCH more complicated things
>>>>>> happening, like changing gravitational potential and the Sagnac effect.
>>>>>> Stick with pure inertial motion. HK is like running before you can walk,
>>>>>> and YOU have trouble even walking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “We defined thinking as integrating data and arriving at correct
>>>>>> answers….  Most people do that stunt just well enough to get to
>>>>>> the corner store and back without breaking a leg.”
>>>>>> -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So now you are into science fiction.  Did you get tired of the Harry Potter books?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That is what the Galilean transformation equations show.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, they don't.  Only fools believe broken clocks tell correct time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have to believe the Galilean transformation equations because they
>>>>>>>>> agree with reality.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, they don't.  You "have to" believe lies because Satan tells you to
>>>>>>>> believe them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The truth hurts, doesn't it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The truth does not hurt me.  The truth is that the circumference of the
>>>>> earth at the equator is 24,701 miles whether or not there is an airplane
>>>>> flying around the earth. 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s the correct number for when you’re on the ground. This may come as a
>>>> shock that it’s not true further up. 
>>>> 
>>> No, I made allowance for that.  I said that if we know the airplane's
>>> altitude, we can calculate exactly how far it traveled.  
>>> So you are saying once again that you do not wish to discuss relativity. 
>>> That was what I thought you were going to say.  
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, let’s see how you do in calculating. If you have a satellite that
>> passes over Maricopa in an easterly direction at an altitude of 380 km, it
>> will next pass over Maricopa in 97.9 minutes. But the same satellite at the
>> same altitude in the westerly direction would next pass over Maricopa in
>> 86.1 minutes. Since the radius of the orbit is the same in both cases, the
>> speed of the satellite is 7.68 km/s in both cases. Perhaps you can explain
>> the difference in times, since you’ve accounted for everything. 
>> 
> Well, I can calculate that you are not using a clock on earth.  

Oh yes I am. 

One in Maricopa. 

I see that this is a mystery to you, and that you have no explanation. The
explanation is really very simple, Robert. Think harder. Even a welder can
figure this simple thing out. 

> So it does not really mean anything.  You have to use a clock with GPS
> time for both satellites.  Then you get the same times for orbits.  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 16:51 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-10 21:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 10:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 09:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 13:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-19 20:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 20:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 13:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 14:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 15:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 17:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-20 19:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 20:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 05:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 12:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-21 18:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 02:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 06:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:32 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:01 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 15:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-22 07:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 07:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:07 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:54 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 05:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-23 03:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-23 10:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 10:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 04:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-22 21:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 22:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 06:06 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 03:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 15:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-23 20:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 18:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 02:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 21:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 07:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-24 15:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:01 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:53 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:16 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 19:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 08:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 23:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 07:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 15:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 21:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 04:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-27 11:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 21:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-29 06:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 18:13 -0700

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