Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!!

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!!
Date	2018-09-03 15:14 +0000
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<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:19:26 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> can we have energy without mass ??!!
>>> -----
>>> E=m c^2
>>> right ??
>> 
>> Be careful. That is not saying that energy has mass or that mass is energy.
> 
> ===============================you ask me to be careful with mass in energy ?
> ("-)
> 
> may be we have to get new eyes !!
> 
> a blind  one can see there 
> energy that is done by 
> mass s well 
>  movement 
> only an over supper  smarty don t see it

Which has nothing to do with E=mc^2. 


> 
> that is the problem with you smarties 
> you make big efforts  to  be *over smart*
> unlike me that i make my best 
> to  be as simple as can be  

Simple is no cure for being incorrectly informed. 

> 
> i think basic  nature as well does it 
> basic  nature does not know
> your over smarty   mathematics 
> and  supper sophistications  

Basic nature does what it does, and it’s our job to understand what it
does. Nature doesn’t give a damn what our common sense says, and nature has
shown over and over again that our common sense is inadequate for
understanding it. 

Besides, the mathematics is not that difficult for those young enough and
interested enough to learn them. Nor are the ideas of quantum mechanics and
fields all that difficult to grasp. 

The world is a lot more interesting than your simple material view. 

> ==============ATB
> Y.P
> ========================  
> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is a formula expressing how much energy can be made available from rest
>> mass. 
>> 
>> So many people get this wrong. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> so 
>>> can we have m c^2
>>> without m ??!!
>>> 
>>> is it not in addition!! 
>>> a mathematical  prove prove that 
>>> there is no energy without Mass ??!!!
>>> 2
>>> could mass be created fro something else ??
>>> so 
>>> it is another  prove that
>>> mass was here ever since
>>> in other words 
>>> no mass was *created* 
>>> it was ever since 
>>> 2
>>> mass can be  either in a **static situation
>>> or 
>>> in movement   !
>>> 
>>> => > 2
>>> but now remains the question :
>>> WHAT     created/CREATES    all forces ?
>>> 
>>> OR 
>>> CAN THERE  BE MOVEMENT WITHOUT MASS ??!!
>>> 
>>> mass with- out   movement exist !!(only inner cyclic  movement  exist in that case ) !!
>>> ===> > TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ===============> > 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 20:41 -0700
  Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 20:50 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-01 21:54 -0700
      Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 00:29 -0700
  CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 04:36 -0700
  Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:19 +0000
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 06:38 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:22 -0400
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 11:42 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-03 06:02 -0700
      Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 15:14 +0000
        Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-03 10:15 -0700
          Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 17:22 +0000
            Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 05:30 -0700
              Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:00 +0000
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-04 11:35 -0500
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 10:17 -0700
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 10:23 -0700
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:02 +0000
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 11:56 -0700
                Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 19:30 +0000
  Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! Henrietta Foreskineater <invalid@example.com> - 2018-09-02 07:18 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS ??!! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:19 -0400
  Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:45 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-03 01:49 -0700
  Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:46 -0700
    Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-02 14:23 -0700
      Re: CAN WE HAVE ENERGY- WITHOUT MASS  ??!! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 14:29 -0700

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