Re: the Ukraine mess

From	"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Newsgroups	can.politics, uk.politics.misc, bc.general, ont.general, sci.military.naval
Subject	Re: the Ukraine mess
Followup-To	can.politics, uk.politics.misc, bc.general, ont.general
Date	2018-08-23 01:12 +0300
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Dave Smith, <news:t3lfD.2338$Vl2.1814@fx46.iad>
> On 2018-08-22 3:33 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>> something in their psyche that is determined to oppress and dominate.
>>>
>>> Oleg has been whining about English colonialism,
>> 
>> How can I 'whine' if I'm supposed to oppress and dominate?
>> 
>> You are inconsistent.
>
> Sure... in you mind.

In your presentation, the alleged Russian determination to oppress and 
dominate is expressed in 'whining', which is inconsistent, it means that 
you're wrong either about the determination to oppress or about whining.

This is just common sense.
 
>>> but check out how Russia has expanded. While the French, English and 
>>> Spanish were expanding their empires in North and South America, 
>>> Russia grew from a small country in the west to one that spanned 
>>> northern Europe,
>> 
>> The Russian expansion was somewhat different from the 'western'
>> colonialism. It is linked to very peculiar geography and history.
>> You can't grasp it and fall to primitive rationalizations (or lies).
> 
> 
> 
> I have to say that you have quite an imagination and are likely quite a 
> legend in your own mind.
> Adios.

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the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-17 11:26 +0300
  Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-17 21:42 +0000
    Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-18 15:58 +0300
      Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-18 19:06 +0000
        Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-18 14:32 -0500
          Re: the Ukraine mess "Liberals are VERMIN!" <rander3128@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 17:48 -0800
        Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-19 16:41 +0300
          Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-19 14:11 +0000
            Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-19 18:00 +0300
              Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-19 22:19 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 02:05 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-20 02:28 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 09:00 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Greg Carr <gregcarrsober@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 01:11 -0700
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 12:23 +0300
              Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-19 22:22 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 02:08 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-19 19:46 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 02:59 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-19 20:27 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 09:03 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-20 09:00 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-20 09:05 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-20 02:35 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 08:57 +0300
      Re: the Ukraine mess "George 152" <gblack@hnpl.net> - 2018-08-19 08:10 +1200
  the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-19 20:17 +0300
    the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-20 17:57 +0300
      Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-20 11:50 -0400
        Re: the Ukraine mess "DoD" <danskisanjar@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 22:31 -0500
          Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-20 23:48 -0400
            Re: the Ukraine mess "DoD" <danskisanjar@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 23:01 -0500
      Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 00:36 +0000
        Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-21 10:49 +0300
          Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 08:44 +0000
            Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-21 13:08 +0300
              Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 17:34 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-21 20:45 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 18:07 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-21 13:13 -0500
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-21 14:44 -0500
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-21 23:07 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 20:55 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 00:11 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 00:34 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-22 00:05 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-22 11:19 -0500
                the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 20:28 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-22 12:38 -0500
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 20:48 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2018-08-22 13:15 -0500
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2018-08-22 15:10 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-22 15:15 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 22:33 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-22 16:54 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2018-08-22 18:02 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-23 01:12 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-22 18:24 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 22:14 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> - 2018-08-23 08:01 +1200
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 02:09 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-22 00:01 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 08:43 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-22 09:36 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 15:57 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-22 09:42 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 17:12 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess "M.I.Wakefield" <none@present.com> - 2018-08-22 11:46 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2018-08-22 10:08 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 20:31 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-22 17:48 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-08-22 20:52 +0300
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-22 21:57 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2018-08-21 21:35 -0400
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-08-21 18:19 +0000
                Re: the Ukraine mess Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2018-08-21 17:24 -0400
              Re: the Ukraine mess Greg Carr <gregcarrsober@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 17:02 -0700
    the Ukraine mess "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2018-11-11 05:40 +0300
      Re: the Ukraine mess Greg Carr <gregcarrsober@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 21:27 -0800

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